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1. Custom menus created by script stay after relaunching InDesign

   There's a bug in InDesign 2022 where custom menus created by a script stay after relaunching InDesign.

   How to reproduce:

   -Run this AppleScript script which will create a menu titled Custom Menu:

   tell application "Adobe InDesign 2022"
   tell menu "$ID/Main" to make submenu with properties {title:"Custom Menu"}
   end tell

   -Relaunch InDesign

   The menu Custom Menu will still be there. While it should NOT be there unless explicitely created by a script again.

   The only way to remove it is to run a separate script that specifically removes the menu.

   It's a big problem for third-party software: for example, where users remove a startup script that created the menu - but the menu doesn't go away.

   There's a bug in InDesign 2022 where custom menus created by a script stay after relaunching InDesign.

   How to reproduce:

   -Run this AppleScript script which will create a menu titled Custom Menu:

   tell application "Adobe InDesign 2022"
   tell menu "$ID/Main" to make submenu with properties {title:"Custom Menu"}
   end tell

   -Relaunch InDesign

   The menu Custom Menu will still be there. While it should NOT be there unless explicitely created by a script again.

   The only way to remove it is to run a separate script that specifically removes the menu.

   It's a big problem for third-party software: for example, where users… more

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2. Stop stealing focus

   Please find a way to make InDesign stop stealing focus every time it does something. It does it 3 separate times on launch, every PDF export, and every time a file finished opening. Some files are 100MB+ and can take time to load, so sitting around waiting for it is not something people with work to do can afford to do all the time, and getting focus stolen in the middle of an email is not a good way to maintain workflow. It's unnecessary behavior, please fix it. This bug is present on 6 of 6 machines we use, spanning Windows 10 and 11 and 2 versions of InDesign (one machine is for development purposes).

   Thank you. Please let me know if you need additional information.

   Please find a way to make InDesign stop stealing focus every time it does something. It does it 3 separate times on launch, every PDF export, and every time a file finished opening. Some files are 100MB+ and can take time to load, so sitting around waiting for it is not something people with work to do can afford to do all the time, and getting focus stolen in the middle of an email is not a good way to maintain workflow. It's unnecessary behavior, please fix it. This bug is present on 6 of 6 machines we use, spanning… more

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3. Pages of my 300-page file disappear

   Hello,

   I recently took over the creation of my company's general catalog (300 pages), which I had previously entrusted to another graphic designer, who transferred the file to me. Since I've taken over the design of the catalog, I've run into a lot of different problems:

   Sometimes, entire pages disappear. Sometimes, text and images are preserved and visible when I'm in “W”, but the background of the blank page is no longer visible. As a result, when I'm no longer in “W”, the page disappears completely.

   Also, sometimes images disappear, for no reason at all, or strange shapes appear next to my document.

   I've tried :
   - Copy and paste the disappearing pages into a new Indesign, that works.
   - I've gone looking for pages from our old catalog that I've put in the file that bugs, and these same pages end up having the same problem. (elements disappear...)
   - I've saved the file in an IDML and it works, only when I export it as a PDF, the initial problem persists.
   - I'm in the process of separating each chapter of our scale into separate Indesigns, let's see if it works

   Do you have any idea why these pages are disappearing?

   Ps: I'm on Windows
   Indesign Versions : V19.5

   Attached is an example of the problem I am experiencing

   I need your help as soon as possible!

   Thank you in advance

   Hello,

   I recently took over the creation of my company's general catalog (300 pages), which I had previously entrusted to another graphic designer, who transferred the file to me. Since I've taken over the design of the catalog, I've run into a lot of different problems:

   Sometimes, entire pages disappear. Sometimes, text and images are preserved and visible when I'm in “W”, but the background of the blank page is no longer visible. As a result, when I'm no longer in “W”, the page disappears completely.

   Also, sometimes images disappear, for no reason at all, or strange shapes appear next… more

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4. Opening (book) document of same name but different path overwrites existing open file

   Finalizing a book with 15 chapters, each about 15 - 30 pages (total 505 pages in book). Have several different versions, in separate folders; all with same file names and book names. Recently discovered that some files in the "FINAL" folder had been overwritten with earlier versions.

   Is is sporadic and I have not been able to fully duplicatie. Looks like if A/chapter1 is open and then B/chapter1 is opened, A/chapter1 is overwritten with the content from B/chapter1. Something also occurs that causes A/chapter1 to get flagged as "possibly damaged" when next opened.

   I cannot tell if this occurs only when the book file is open, or if it happens every time (I don't do it often enough to track).

   Book containing the overwritten files will do successful pre-flight, but consistently CRASHES indesign completely when trying to do package for print. (Crash reports submitted)

   InDesign 17.2 x64, Windows 10 Home (all updates thru May 1)

   Finalizing a book with 15 chapters, each about 15 - 30 pages (total 505 pages in book). Have several different versions, in separate folders; all with same file names and book names. Recently discovered that some files in the "FINAL" folder had been overwritten with earlier versions.

   Is is sporadic and I have not been able to fully duplicatie. Looks like if A/chapter1 is open and then B/chapter1 is opened, A/chapter1 is overwritten with the content from B/chapter1. Something also occurs that causes A/chapter1 to get flagged as "possibly damaged" when next opened.

   I cannot tell if this occurs only… more

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5. [ CC-2019 and 2020 ] The Convert-Endnotes-To-Footnotes Disaster SCOPE: DOCUMENT

   Hi together,
   I'm using the menu dialog, not the context menu, for converting endnotes to footnotes. Scope: Document

   The result is not as expected.

   There are 7 endnotes in my document. Only 5 were detected by the conversion and only 3 of that 5 were actually converted. In one of the not detected endnotes the text has changed after the conversion. Some separator characters were added.

   I am showing all this in more detail at the Adobe InDesign Forum and at InDesign Prerelease as well. Together with a link to my test documents.

   Please see into:
   [ CC-2019 and 2020 ] The Convert-Endnotes-To-Footnotes Disaster SCOPE: DOCUMENT
   Laubender
   https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/cc-2019-and-2020-the-convert-endnotes-to-footnotes-disaster-scope-document/td-p/10936392

   Regards,
   Uwe Laubender
   ( ACP )

   Hi together,
   I'm using the menu dialog, not the context menu, for converting endnotes to footnotes. Scope: Document

   The result is not as expected.

   There are 7 endnotes in my document. Only 5 were detected by the conversion and only 3 of that 5 were actually converted. In one of the not detected endnotes the text has changed after the conversion. Some separator characters were added.

   I am showing all this in more detail at the Adobe InDesign Forum and at InDesign Prerelease as well. Together with a link to my test documents.

   Please see into:
   [ CC-2019 and 2020… more

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6. Rendering problems on second monitor

   Just updated to Illustrator 16.2.1 and discovered a bug I didn't have last week. This is reproducible even over a restart. What I'm doing: opening two documents and moving one to a second monitor to compare the layouts. MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Core i9 Radeon Pro 560X 4GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536MB. When I move a window to the second monitor (the Intel card), the display first is very large (one page, as opposed to spread view). Then as soon as I scroll, the content rendering gets corrupted. It might be totally upside down; or it might smear during scroll. Scrolling top to bottom smudges; scrolling bottom to top resets. It doesn't make a difference if the window is the main work window or a separate one. Happens even with a new document and placeholder text.

   Just updated to Illustrator 16.2.1 and discovered a bug I didn't have last week. This is reproducible even over a restart. What I'm doing: opening two documents and moving one to a second monitor to compare the layouts. MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Core i9 Radeon Pro 560X 4GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536MB. When I move a window to the second monitor (the Intel card), the display first is very large (one page, as opposed to spread view). Then as soon as I scroll, the content rendering gets corrupted. It might be totally upside down; or it might smear during scroll.… more

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7. "Reverse on Roll Off" doesn't work

   The feature "Reverse on Roll Off" does not appear to work.

   I have a simple button set up with an On Roll Over event to Play an Animation. The button works as intended.
   However, I have the "Reverse on Roll Off" checkbox ticked, presuming it would automatically apply a "Reverse" command to the Animation when the mouse cursor Rolls Off the button.

   It does not.

   Due to the nature of my button and animation design, setting up separate "On Roll Over" and "On Roll Off" Events on the same button is not an option, because the various combinations of the "Hide Before Animating" and "Hide After Animating" options would cause my animation to disappear completely depending on the button activity.

   Through Google Search I saw another reference to this bug from 2017, with Adobe's reply being that this is a "SWF only feature", and would be documented as such. However, in 2025, and publishing in the EPUB format, this feature should either work correctly or be removed as SWF is long since deprecated as a format.

   The feature "Reverse on Roll Off" does not appear to work.

   I have a simple button set up with an On Roll Over event to Play an Animation. The button works as intended.
   However, I have the "Reverse on Roll Off" checkbox ticked, presuming it would automatically apply a "Reverse" command to the Animation when the mouse cursor Rolls Off the button.

   It does not.

   Due to the nature of my button and animation design, setting up separate "On Roll Over" and "On Roll Off" Events on the same button is not an option, because the various combinations of the… more

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8. Multi-Lingual Data Handling

   This is a suggestion for a new feature for people using InDesign for multilingual purposes.

   In India, we may need to use 3 languages ​​at the same time, for example, in addition to English, we may need to use the national language Hindi and the regional language Malayalam, Tamil or some other language. In other countries, sometimes even more.

   When we try to make changes to a paragraph or chapter using different fonts in different languages, we often have to select and change even one letter to change the font in each language. This greatly reduces the joy of using character, paragraph styles, etc. and reduces efficiency and output.

   Now that the languages ​​of the world are rapidly moving to Unicode, it would be nice if we could address each language separately and make changes to the character style and paragraph style based on the Unicode font spectrum suitable for each language.

   I hope I can contribute more ideas to the efforts to meet this global challenge.

   Thank you

   This is a suggestion for a new feature for people using InDesign for multilingual purposes.

   In India, we may need to use 3 languages ​​at the same time, for example, in addition to English, we may need to use the national language Hindi and the regional language Malayalam, Tamil or some other language. In other countries, sometimes even more.

   When we try to make changes to a paragraph or chapter using different fonts in different languages, we often have to select and change even one letter to change the font in each language. This greatly reduces the joy of using… more

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9. Text Box Cutting off Copy with Auto Height On

   I am using version 15.0.1 but this also happens in previous versions. We use multiple paragraph styles to format our text. We have noticed in some cases, not all when we copy the text frame the text box cuts off the last line when copied. Also when you click in a text box and begin to edit the last line disappears. We use many layers and many versions so we copy the text very often, this is causing problems with missing text.

   To get our text formatted we use paragraph styles, we hit enter to go to the next style, this has always worked really well. Recently however, our style changed and they want the text to flow, not be on separate lines. We go back and delete the return to flow the text. I have also tried this same effect with nested paragraph styles, even with nested styles we get the same text box issue with the last line being cut off.

   I recorded this happening in several instances and it can be viewed here: https://quad.box.com/s/4c1rwrbqpb5712250eo567t4ncv9mfzc

   I am using version 15.0.1 but this also happens in previous versions. We use multiple paragraph styles to format our text. We have noticed in some cases, not all when we copy the text frame the text box cuts off the last line when copied. Also when you click in a text box and begin to edit the last line disappears. We use many layers and many versions so we copy the text very often, this is causing problems with missing text.

   To get our text formatted we use paragraph styles, we hit enter to go to the next style,… more

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10. Alt + numeric keystrokes does not work

    ASCII codes not working, that is keeping the LEFT ALT pressed, then typing ASCII codes on the nymeric typepad, finally releasing the LEFT ALT. For example Alt+0167 will give you the paragraph symbol.

    Unfortunately, in the newest versions of In-Design, when the LEFT ALT is kept pressed, the program does not accept as input the whole string when Alt is released, but is considering each keystroke as a separate entry, even though Alt is still pressed, something that worked in Windows for 30 years.

    So, since I had some shortcuts (eg. Alt+6 for a specific character style), when wanting to get the paragraph symbol (Alt+0167) it simply does not work. I had to change the shortcuts using numbers from the keypad. And believe me, it took me a lot of time to find out who the culprit was.

    So, please, restore the program to how it was, how ALL Windows programs work.

    ASCII codes not working, that is keeping the LEFT ALT pressed, then typing ASCII codes on the nymeric typepad, finally releasing the LEFT ALT. For example Alt+0167 will give you the paragraph symbol.

    Unfortunately, in the newest versions of In-Design, when the LEFT ALT is kept pressed, the program does not accept as input the whole string when Alt is released, but is considering each keystroke as a separate entry, even though Alt is still pressed, something that worked in Windows for 30 years.

    So, since I had some shortcuts (eg. Alt+6 for a specific character style), when wanting to… more

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11. Suggestion -book (choice of layers)

    I produce several multi-language books & brochures that consists of up to 114 separate documents linked via a Book file. Each language has its' own layer with the same name in all documents while other layers are exclusive to, or only exist in some documents. Currently when I have to Print or create a PDF of a specific language I have to open every single document to activate the layers I want visible, save, and then proceed to output the entire book.

    I would like to propose that Indesign incorporate an additional tab in its' print/pdf dialog boxes that lists ALL layers across all documents selected and allows the user to choose via a checkbox which layers are to be output.

    Furthermore I'd like to suggest layers with the same name work similar to how the Links dialog works where I could select the top-most label to output all layers with the same name -OR- have a drop down that lists the documents that layer name is found in & allows me to select which ones I want output or not.

    This would save a tremendous amount of time & effort especially when a change occurs across all languages requiring I output the entire book for each language. Currently having to open, activate/deactivate layers, & re-save every document for each language I need to output is extremely time consuming & ridiculous.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration. I truly hope you will choose to implement this suggestion.

    Respectfully,
    Len Zigante

    I produce several multi-language books & brochures that consists of up to 114 separate documents linked via a Book file. Each language has its' own layer with the same name in all documents while other layers are exclusive to, or only exist in some documents. Currently when I have to Print or create a PDF of a specific language I have to open every single document to activate the layers I want visible, save, and then proceed to output the entire book.

    I would like to propose that Indesign incorporate an additional tab in its' print/pdf dialog boxes that lists… more

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12. Interactive elements do not export to interactive PDF

    Version - Adobe Indesign CC
    2015.3 Release
    11.3.0.34 Build
    operating on Mac OS X El Capitan, Version 10.11

    Steps to reproduce issues:

    Create a new document with a double-page spread in Indesign.
    Import four images into document and arrange on spread.

    Import a shape into Indesign that will be assigned as a pop up box that will appear above Image 1 when rolled over, and place shape next to Image 1.
    Place some text (e.g. "Image credit') on top of shape and group text with shape.
    Open Buttons and Forms dialogue box:
    - Convert group to a button.
    - Set 'Name' as: Pop up 1.
    - Check box to turn 'Hidden until triggered' on.

    Select Image 1 which will be the trigger image for Pop up 1.
    Open Buttons and Forms dialogue box:
    - Convert Image 1 to a button.
    - Set 'Name' as: Image 1
    - Select 'Event: On Roll Over'.
    - Add a new action: 'Show/Hide Buttons and Forms'.
    - Set 'Visibility': select Pop-up 1 from list and set visibility as 'show'. Set visibility for 'Image 1' itself to 'ignore'.
    - Appearance: [Normal] is selected.

    • Select "Event: On Roll Off'.
    • Add a new action: 'Show/Hide Buttons and Forms'.
    • Set 'Visibility': select Pop-up 1 from list and set visibility as 'hide'. Set visibility for 'Image 1' itself to 'ignore'.
    • Appearance: [Normal] is selected.

    Repeat above steps for Images 2, 3 and 4.
    Export as interactive PDF.

    Actual result: 3 out of four of the images will trigger a pop up box when rolled over in the Interactive PDF as exported from Indesign. The fourth image does not trigger its assigned pop up box. The settings are exactly the same for all four images and pop up boxes. The shapes for the pop-up boxes are each imported separately, not copied and pasted. Sometimes none display, sometimes all, sometimes half. I cannot depend on this feature to work correctly.

    Expected Result: Each of the four images will trigger a hidden separate pop up box for its corresponding image when rolled over and the pop-up box will revert to being hidden when the image is rolled off.

    Version - Adobe Indesign CC
    2015.3 Release
    11.3.0.34 Build
    operating on Mac OS X El Capitan, Version 10.11

    Steps to reproduce issues:

    Create a new document with a double-page spread in Indesign.
    Import four images into document and arrange on spread.

    Import a shape into Indesign that will be assigned as a pop up box that will appear above Image 1 when rolled over, and place shape next to Image 1.
    Place some text (e.g. "Image credit') on top of shape and group text with shape.
    Open Buttons and Forms dialogue box:
    - Convert group to a button.
    - Set… more

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13. map Word lists to InDesign lists and paragraph styles

    As the InDesign help documentation notes (https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/map-export-manage-styles.html), "Text styles with bullet or number lists may not be copied or exported to a different application with the bullets or numbers intact." The suggested workflow is extremely time-consuming for a long document where every paragraph is assigned to a hierarchical outline structure in Word, since each paragraph has to be manually assigned to the correct paragraph style and the Word outline numbering that was converted to text needs to be manually deleted. In addition, when placing the document, it creates a separate new "imported list" style from each Word list, resulting in hundreds of unused list styles that need to be individually deleted in another tedious process (why isn't there any way to delete all unused Lists? or at least allow me to select multiple for deletion in the Define Lists dialog.)

    A much faster workflow would be the following: in the place Word doc import options, add a section for mapping numbered/lettered lists in Word to InDesign lists and paragraph styles. Allow me to map each Word list hierarchy level to a corresponding InDesign list Level, assigned to a single InDesign list (this is a many-to-one reassignment). Also allow me to map each Word list hierarchy level to a corresponding InDesign paragraph style (this is a one-to-many reassignment, since Word allows multiple list levels in a single list Style).

    As the InDesign help documentation notes (https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/map-export-manage-styles.html), "Text styles with bullet or number lists may not be copied or exported to a different application with the bullets or numbers intact." The suggested workflow is extremely time-consuming for a long document where every paragraph is assigned to a hierarchical outline structure in Word, since each paragraph has to be manually assigned to the correct paragraph style and the Word outline numbering that was converted to text needs to be manually deleted. In addition, when placing the document, it creates a separate new "imported list" style from each Word list,… more

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14. Lag due to "corrupt links"

    Case Number: ADB-10686986-C0K0
    Issue: Performance
    The file I am working on is part of a network located book which included 15 separate indesign documents and links to many images. Working on the file last week everything was fine, however this week when I type even a single character there is a tremendous lag (30 seconds to 2 minutes). This has affected every file in the book that I have opened this week so far.
    The adobe tech had me create a new file and "move" all the pages to that file. This resolved the lag however it also broke the relationship to the pdf comments and now they cannot be imported. The solution also will require me to import missing formats (table of contents) and manually make all edits but is still faster than working with the original file.
    Unsure why the links "became corrupt" especially when they appear fine.

    The advanced technician identified something she called "corrupted links" which she mentioned "happens sometimes" . I propose an export to new document feature since all I had to do was move the pages to a new document to fix it. Adobe should be able to figure out why the links are not ok in one document but work fine when move to a new one. The old file is the one with the issues.

    Case Number: ADB-10686986-C0K0
    Issue: Performance
    The file I am working on is part of a network located book which included 15 separate indesign documents and links to many images. Working on the file last week everything was fine, however this week when I type even a single character there is a tremendous lag (30 seconds to 2 minutes). This has affected every file in the book that I have opened this week so far.
    The adobe tech had me create a new file and "move" all the pages to that file. This resolved the lag however it also broke the… more

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15. provide tool to manage external cross-references

    I am responsible for maintaining and updating a long manual with many cross-references. Most of these cross-references are internal to the book collection, but a significant minority reference specific sections in other books that make up the manual or specific sections in other reference documents external to my organization. The ability to use the cross-reference tools to manage internal cross-references is a godsend. Manually tracking external cross-references, however, is extremely tedious and mistake-prone. Obviously it would not be possible to provide hyperlinks or automatic updating for external cross-references. However, I would still like a way to keep track of them in InDesign.

    I would love for InDesign to provide the following workflow for managing external cross-references:
    1. Provide a way to mark text strings as external cross-references. This could either be within the existing Insert Cross-Reference tool or a separate new tool. Ideally there would be an option to add metadata, such as the title and edition of the external document being referenced.
    2. Provide a way to export an external cross-reference report as .CSV or other table format. This table would list each text string marked as an external cross reference, along with the page number where it appears in the InDesign document and any other metadata defined for that record.
    3. Provide an option to toggle on and off highlighting of text marked as external cross references in InDesign.

    I am responsible for maintaining and updating a long manual with many cross-references. Most of these cross-references are internal to the book collection, but a significant minority reference specific sections in other books that make up the manual or specific sections in other reference documents external to my organization. The ability to use the cross-reference tools to manage internal cross-references is a godsend. Manually tracking external cross-references, however, is extremely tedious and mistake-prone. Obviously it would not be possible to provide hyperlinks or automatic updating for external cross-references. However, I would still like a way to keep track of them… more

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16. References

    Problem

    There does not seem to be a straight forward way to manage references in a scientific text.[1-3] While simple references[1] may be managed by bending the cross-reference tool[2] more advanced referencing situations[1,3] are not easily dealt with.

    Suggestion

    In the raw text, cite-keys can be inserted. The cite-keys are unique identifiers for the text entries (either in a table at the end of the document or in a separate bibtext file). Then a relatively simple functionality that basically does search-and-replace work could do the rest. Search for the first cite-key in the document, replace all its occurrences with 1. If there is already a table at the end of the document that contains all the references in the format

    [cite-key] Formatted Reference

    Nothing else needs to be done and that would be an acceptable solution. If the references are in a bibtext file they need to be imported and formatted.

    Then search for the second cite-key, replace that with 2 and so on.

    If all cite-keys are replaced, go again through the text to find things like

    ... text.[1,2,3] While ...

    and rectify it to

    ...text.[1-3] While...

    Finally, sort the table at the end of the document by increasing reference number.

    Indeed, this will be my simple (and unfortunately manual) work-flow.

    References
    [1] The author of this article, in this article, just now.
    [2] https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/indesign/using/cross-references.html, may no longer be valid
    [3] The author of this article again, in this article, a bit later.

    Problem

    There does not seem to be a straight forward way to manage references in a scientific text.[1-3] While simple references[1] may be managed by bending the cross-reference tool[2] more advanced referencing situations[1,3] are not easily dealt with.

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    In the raw text, cite-keys can be inserted. The cite-keys are unique identifiers for the text entries (either in a table at the end of the document or in a separate bibtext file). Then a relatively simple functionality that basically does search-and-replace work could do the rest. Search for the first cite-key in the document, replace all its occurrences with 1.… more

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17. Creating a new cross reference instance and/or changing the para style of existing X-ref hangs Indesign

    1. INDESIGN 2025 V. 20.3.1.73

    2. STEPS TO REPRODUCE THE X_REF BUG WHICH HANGS INDESIGN

       2.1 Show the Cross-References panel (choose Window > Type & Tables > Cross-References)

       2.2 Either a) double click on an exisiting Cross-reference in the Cross Reference Palette to edit it in the (modal) "Edit Cross-Reference" dialogue panel.

       2.3 OR b) Click the Create New Cross-Reference button in the panel.

       2.4 Click on the Reference Format drop down menu .

    3. EXPECTED RESULT
       Show the Cross Reference Format drop down menu, allowing user to select of one of the items in the list of current Formatting styles. This new format will then be invoked in the document layout view. (See screen shot with filename "HANG BUG when x-ref style menu is invoked.png").
       Clicking the "Ok" button confirms the choices made in this dialogue and ends the model window session (which prevents other editing of document(s) to take place during the generation of a new/edited X-ref in the text.

    4. ACTUAL RESULT
       Frequently these steps results in a hang.

    5. ADDITIONAL LEVELS OF DETAIL, TESTING & LOGICAL ANALYSIS

    Seem like clicking on the Cross Reference Format Style menu is always trigger for the Hanging, not any of the previous steps, Though this does not mean that clicking on this menu ALWAYS results in a Hang. Changes to the X-Ref format style are sometimes possible (even on a X-ref that previously hung InDesign) and the operation will in this case always succeed when "ok" button is clicked.

    In trying to determine the subtle cause of intermittent hanging during these operations, it would sometimes appear that this seems to be related to generating a text for the reference that is longer the the remaining white space on the line where the cross reference is being inserted.

    Under normal circumstances, changing a X-ref style is may cause the line of text with the new or previewed edit to X-ref to be overset (the screenshot file called "red dot for overset text.png")

    But in many cases the existing style is not causing overset text, but even clicking on the menu (rather than clicking then releasing on a new formatting Style item in the list) results in the hang. And at other times it's only after a different formatting style is selected the hang occurs.

    .6. CONCLUSIONS

    So its seems to be that the Hang bug trigger is orthogonal to the actual variations in the formatting style settings themselves, and more likely to be the code which executes the menu or the screen redraws for menu changes that is at fault. But given Adobe's woefully buggy code for InDesign and Illustrator, who rightly knows at this point after 15 years of the codebase seeming becoming repeatedly refactored with bad design choices that only make a buggy application worse with each release in terms of application stability with respect to existing Indesign features and functions (many of which have been in the app for over a decade, although possibly enhanced, reworked for the cross-platform JS based UI framework refactored or rewritten entirely).

    .7. FURTHER NOTES FOR ADOBE TO READ AND TO PLEASE TAKE SERIOUSLY

    I demonstrated this hanging behaviour during a live screen-sharing session with an Adobe support worker using their Adobe's in-house screen sharing application. I asked this person to log this as a bug. The poor technical support employee of Adobe was unable to confirm or deny if this bug is known or new to their developers and obvious no idea if a fix was in the works. He suggested opening the files in Adobe InDesign 2024. I have not attempted this at this point, if there is feature parity with the new cloud based InDesign Review system (which new feature logs seem to indicate is the case) and all the other INDD features I'm using then I'll consider doing so and report back on success or failure of this.

    I note that bugs on User Voice forums in relation to previous iterations of InDesign and it's Cross Referencing set of functions seem to litter this forum. So any linkages with these might be worth investigating.

    Might I add that i resent wasting hours of time on buggy INDESIGN applications for over a decades now and then getting so frustrated I have to spend an hour or more of my time documenting the bug as precisely as possible in the (vain) hope of the bug being fixed before the current project I'm working on is completed. I've laboured under this bug for a couple of months now for a project I dont work on every day, it's a long multi-document report using the InDesign Book to combine the Indesign files for TOC, X-refs and page numbering functions with a total number of pages which will be in the 100s.

    1. INDESIGN 2025 V. 20.3.1.73

    2. STEPS TO REPRODUCE THE X_REF BUG WHICH HANGS INDESIGN

       2.1 Show the Cross-References panel (choose Window > Type & Tables > Cross-References)

       2.2 Either a) double click on an exisiting Cross-reference in the Cross Reference Palette to edit it in the (modal) "Edit Cross-Reference" dialogue panel.

       2.3 OR b) Click the Create New Cross-Reference button in the panel.

       2.4 Click on the Reference Format drop down menu .

    3. EXPECTED RESULT
       Show the Cross Reference Format drop down menu, allowing user to select of one of the items in the list of current Formatting styles. This new… more

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18. InDesign 18.4 crashes/fails during PDF export for documents containing placed indd with HEIC images

    I've tried exporting every INDD separately with HEIC images in and it exports fine. The file that contains the INDD with HEIC images in always hangs and eventually crashes.

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