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Think of this as letting the individual tagged elements of the placed PDF be passed down into the InDesign layout and the final exported PDF.
We need the original PDF's tags to be carried through to the new PDF from the new InDesign layout.
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We need to be able to drill down into a placed PDF's elements and control the tagging, just as if it was live content in InDesign.
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Thanks for reporting the issue. We are looking into it
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This is a critical accessibility issue. If the ONLY solution at this time is to NOT export a tagged, accessible PDF, then how will designers be able to use InDesign to create accessible PDFs, which are required by national laws in most industrialized countries?
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The fix for this issue is now available in the latest update of InDesign – version 16.0.1.
Please update to this version to get the fix.
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And please work with Adobe's PDF team and accessibility engineers (L. Rosenthal, etc.) so that the MathML transfers into a PDF correctly and fully accessible.
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Quote: << think Dax Castro is an Adobe employee >>
No, Dax isn't an Adobe employee, but he is extremely knowledgeable about both InDesign and accessibility.He is correct, that allowing rows to split is disastrous to those who use various accessibility software (AT) when using computers.
Accessibility affects about 1/3 of the world's population, not a "small subset" of use cases and affects people with vision, mobility, cognitive, and reading disabilities. It affects a LOT of people.
But the solution is real easy: Adobe just needs to give InDesigners the option to allow row splitting or not with a checkbox option in the table's controls. MS Word has does this for eons.
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1. Table footnotes use a different numbering system than document footnotes, usually
Symbols like *, †, and ‡
Letters like a, b, and c, and
Numbers.So designers must be able to create a unique numbering series for each table.
2. STEM-Govt publications often require table source notes. They look like footnotes, appear after the table, but don't have a unique symbol or number. Example:
Source: US Department of Agriculture.
* Table Footnote blah blah.3. Table footnotes should be in the TFoot section of the table, essentially a part of the table itself. Designer should be allowed to format TFoot section to appear with or without borders, use a different font or paragraph formatting style, and control spacing before/after the last visible row.
4. In most cases, the TFoot section should span the entire width of the table. Essentially a row with one merged cell. But allow the designer to adjust this.
5. The footnote reference in the table body should be automatically hyperlinked to its table footnote. A fully accessible hyperlink with <Reference> and <Link> / <Link-OBJR> tags.
6. @titanium9 's comment about Framemaker's tables is correct. Was teaching tables in FM in 1986 ... 34 years ago. I don't understand why InDesign doesn't have such capable table tools.
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I think table footnotes should be in the table footer section of the table so that:
1) They are part of the table, not the rest of the page content, and
2) They automatically repeat at the bottom of multi-page tables.Right now, as folks have said, the table footnotes are separated from the actual table itself.
For accessibility, the footnote <Note> tags would be in the <TFoot> section within the <Table> tag.
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Thanks for the suggestion. We have started to explore this feature. Will share more details soon
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Hello All,
Kindly provide more information about this ask. How do you plan to use the Action Panel in InDesign? Do you want it to work exactly like that in Photoshop? What are the most important actions/operations that you want to record?
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Abhinav Agarwal
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The fix for this issue is now available in the latest update (14.0.2) of InDesign 2019.
If you are unable to see the update notification, open the menu (three dots) from the top-right of Creative Cloud desktop application and click on ‘Check For App Updates’.
Once the update button is shown against InDesign, click on the button to update to Id 14.0.2.If you face any problems with the new update, do let us know in the comments.
The list of fixed issues can be found at: helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/fixed-issues.html
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We have recently started development work on Convert PDF to INDD. Going forward, we will keep adding more functionality and refining it.
The feature is available as a Beta feature in InDesign 19.5 Beta version, available via the CCD app.
Note: For now, it is available only when InDesign's install language is English (North America or International).
Please provide us feedback on this Beta feature. Looking forward to hearing your feedback.
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We have added this feature in our backlog for future release
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The ability to find colors in documents in now available in InDesign’s latest release 16.0.
It can be found in a new tab of Find/Change dialog – Color.
Please let us know your feedback in comments.Regards,
Abhinav Kaushik (AK)Bevi Chagnon
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The fix for this issue is available in the latest InDesign release 16.2.1
Please update to this latest version to get the fix.—
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@amaaroram this bug affects all Alt-text in the PDF exported from InDesign 2020, not just Alt-text on the hyperlinks (which is a new addition in 2020).
HUGE PROBLEM. Alt-text on graphics and other elements in the document is a major requirement of accessibility standards (PDF-UA and WCAG) and is mandated by national laws of the world's major countries, including India.
My shop has tested and confirmed that the problem is still in the latest 15.0.1 update.
Until this bug is corrected, as well as the other broken accessibility features, no one should upgrade to 2020 if they must create accessible PDFs.
This update prevents all government users of InDesign, at all levels of government worldwide. That's a lot of your customer base!
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Hi,
What all things would you like PDF to retain? (alt text, tags and what else?)Currently when PDF is imported, its imported as a single graphic.
Would you want the tags and alt text to be mapped to their correct assets in InDesign? and those tags and alt text be also editable from within InDesign after PDF is imported?
Or should they be remapped and restored once the document with placed PDF is again exported to PDF from InDesign?
Would want to know more about the proposed solution / workflow
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Hi,
1. The majority of InDesign Scripting threads were merged and archived at first.
2. After a month or so, InDesign Scripting re-appeared as its own topic in the new forums.
3. David K. started un-archiving older threads last week, a few at a time, very slowly and by hand, because of odd server-side limitations.
4. There is no “Direct Link” to the Scripting Topic at this time, but this ought to be fixed with the current sprint from the forums team. The internal bug number is: ALFD-1530While we wait for ALFD-1530, there is a backdoor way to find direct links to topics. You can follow a topic then look at your follows… or just use these links:
• InDesign Scripting: https://community.adobe.com/t5/forums/filteredbylabelpage/board-id/indesign/label-name/scripting
• InDesign SDK: https://community.adobe.com/t5/forums/filteredbylabelpage/board-id/indesign/label-name/sdk
• InDesign Server Developers: https://community.adobe.com/t5/forums/filteredbylabelpage/board-id/indesign/label-name/server%20developersThanks
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Oh, and one more...
In long posts, especially those from the old forum that go back a year of more, you have to continually press the "more replies" button and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and (wait, wait for it...) scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll to read the most recent posts on the topic.
In the old forum, we could quickly jump to the most recent posts. Now we spend 2-3 minutes just scrolling to the most recent posts. And sometimes never get there!
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In fact, fix many of the inadequacies of this new forum:
1. Separate out scripting InDesign and scripting Acrobat from the main forums.
2. Separate out LiveCycle and XFA forms from Acrobat main forum.
3. Get rid of the stupid, useless one line reply field.
4. Set the default sort by date, not relevance.
5. Rebuild the email announcement that comes with each new posting so that it doesn't contain the enormous graphic (which happens to be the top purely-decorative rule).
6. In the email announcement, have the subject line be consistent. We need to skim/scan the original post's subject line, not the most recent reply from someone. Today, my inbox had these subject lines:
-- Hi Phillip! Thank you.
-- Delete please.
-- Yes, just paste a screen shot.
-- Thank you so much.
-- Hi all!As an ACP, this nonsense in the subject line prevents me from scanning for topics I'm helping someone with and providing follow up.
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We need a Preflight definition for InDesign that checks for accessibility issues, such as:
1) Unicode (OpenType) fonts
2) Alt-text on graphics
3) Tags defined in the paragraph styles
4) Correct formatting of lists and tables
5) Color contrast
6) Metadata / File Info
7) Sequential hierarchical headings
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Lukas, I would love to work with you on this. Contact me off list.
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As more countries require accessible document files, graphic designers need this feature in order to make a fully accessible PDF or EPUB of their work.
Here are 2 inquiries from the Adobe Forums that appear within hours of each other.
https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/accessibility-and-figures/m-p/12210813, and
https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/anchoring-images-to-different-pages/m-p/12211002#M438927
Please create a way to allow a designer to anchor a graphic (or other element, such as another text frame for a sidebar) between spreads.
The work arounds for this a very time-consuming and not the best solution for accessibility.