MathML Support
We need to have InDesign to support MathML, this is much awaited feature, but not supporting in InDesign yet.
Currently we're using 3rd party plugins such as MathType, MathTools, PowerMath, etc. but not meeting our expectation, also high license cost than InDesign.
@ALL: Please support to include this feature in InDesign in the very near release.
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Soulard commented
I'm happy to see that InDesign 20.0 now supports MathML, even if some functionnalities are missing.
The one I absolutely need is having access to the base line of the equation so that aligning it with the surrounding text becomes easy by script. That's what I do with equations from MathType (reading the line %%Baseline: .... in the EPS file).
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Sandra Dietrich commented
We need this especially for accessible PDF exported from InDesign!!
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Shivaram Allva commented
A publishing tool without Math support is not convincing. Please consider providing Math (MathML) support.
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Raja, Gejaraj commented
@All: This is to update you that Adobe has integrated MathML support in the recent prerelease version and expecting to make it LIVE the initial version during MAX release, most probably by Oct'24 and confirmed that further upgrades will be made and do the DOT releases in CC 2025
Thank you so much all, who and all voted for this idea and shown that it's very much needed!
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Yasmine Medjadji commented
I do the layout of a lot of Theses so this would be extremely useful!
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Maddie May commented
Bringing this into 2024: Adobe needs to see the math market + accessibility success this would have. To be able to host and easily update complex equations would open the door to a whole new user base of math documentation and textbooks. MathML (or even LaTex) plugin would be extremely beneficial in my workflow.
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Ralf Geiss commented
MathML Support would be very helpful
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MathMagic Support commented
@Claudio Marconato, thanks for asking. I am afraid MathMagic is mentioned too often lately but I guess it is OK to answer you because this info is publicly available many places.
As you can find from the attached screenshot, MathMagic is available through InDesign's Plug-ins menu, or right-button clicked contextual menu, or InDesign's toolbar on the left bottom.
To add a new equation, you can simply select "New Equation". To re-edit an equation, you can simply double-click on it.
Inserted equation in a text box as an inline object will automatically align its baseline to the text baseline.
As explained below, MathML or LaTeX / Plain TeX and other info can also be converted or inserted.If you need to change the font or size or other style of your equations in the whole InDesign doc or in a certain range or pages, a new Style can be applied to all those equations at once. For example, when your InDesign's body text need to change its font or size, all equations can also be changed accordingly quickly.
All equations are placed in EPS format so InDesign handles them natively. So you do not need MathMagic application or plugin installed, if you do not need to create or reedit equations. Your InDesign documents with MathMagic equations can be shared with other designers or printing service bureau without asking them to install MathMagic, and future versions of InDesign can handle the those equations even if MathMagic is not installed.
Overall, MathMagic should just work seamlessly, like a part of InDesign's builtin feature.
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Claudio Marconato commented
@MathMagic Support, so with MathMagic Pro on macOS there's a good integration with InDesign?
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MathMagic Support commented
@Raja, Gejaraj: Thank you. If you have a Mac, and would like to test the current MathMagic Pro on macOS, please send us a brief email to support@mathmagic.com. We would like to offer you an Evaluation copy.
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Raja, Gejaraj commented
@MathMagic Support: yes, it was tested long-back in Windows with trial version first and then bought 1 license (looking for the name of purchase as we changed our corporate name thrice later)
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MathMagic Support commented
@Raja, Gejaraj
May we ask when you tried MathMagic because we could not find your name from our database for the last 10+ years.
Was it just a Trial version with limited features? Or, purchased under a different name? -
Raja, Gejaraj commented
@All: like to share the collective details on the challenges we're facing in different 3rd-party tools, please let me know, if anyone required additional details:
(1) PowerMath: Need to follow different coding structure than MathML or TeX/LaTeX, outdated and our client is requesting not to use this plug-in for their projects
(2) MathMagic: Explored this, but not up to the mark, challenges in hanging and much more, also cost is much higher than InDesign license cost
(3) InMath (then) / MathTools (now): Few clients preferred this and now dropped due to less support, not user friendly, licenses getting inactivated frequently, also cost is much higher than InDesign license cost
(4) MathType: Currently using for many of our clients, but challenges in handling complex equations, also rendering as images, due to that difficult in setting the equations across the pages and spreads, MathML extraction not up to the mark and much more
So finally, Adobe should have in-built MathML support to cover all the possibilities and without the above mentioned challenges.
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Feng Leon commented
无法相信,作为一个排版软件,迭代了这么多个版本,居然还不支持公式,现在在线文档编辑器几乎都是标配了。
I can't believe that as a typesetting software, after iterating through so many versions, it still doesn't support formulas. Nowadays, online document editors are almost standard. -
Katryne Parvais-Dion commented
We need this!
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MathMagic Support commented
If you'd like to see the Conversion of MathML block to an Equation on the fly... screenshot attached.
Please make sure the Smart Quotes are not enabled and not used in the MathML expression.
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MathMagic Support commented
For those who need to convert MathML into equation within InDesign document....
MathMagic Pro supports converting the MathML expression block or LaTeX expression within a text box into an equation. It will automatically search the block around the cursor or just convert the selected text block into math equation, in EPS format.
The equation can also be converted to other formats such as SVG, PDF, MathML, LaTeX, PNG, JPG, ..., as necessary.
Inserted equations in a text box as inline graphics automatically align its baseline to the text baseline.
Free trial can be used to see the features.For an evaluation copy to test for a longer period, please contact us: support at mathmagic.com
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Raja, Gejaraj commented
Yes, I too agree to bring this feature from FrameMaker to InDesign, will be more good to continue with InDesign
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Viacheslav Horobchenko commented
Yes, from the very beginning of InDesign's history, I wish there was support for a set of scientific formulas. Frame-Maker is very old now and completely inconvenient, in my opinion, not equal to InDesign. It would be interesting to combine their capabilities...
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Raja, Gejaraj commented
Then, Adobe is promoting FrameMaker than InDesign? Definitely not, also FrameMaker not supporting MathML, but only the math expressions.
@Adobe: please respond