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Abhinav AgarwalAn error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commented[1] In my case, the comments are queries to authors (and occasionally to in-house acquiring editors) about apparent errors, ambiguous writing and preferences for presentation of material. There are no doubt work-flows where the comments would be sent to colleagues working on other aspects of a publication. But, the main purpose of exporting notes to PDF would be so page proofs containing the comments can be sent to authors and others without access to an in-house workflow based on InCopy and InDesign.
[2] The comments are not a response to comments from authors or reviewers as the latter would usually be incorporated into the document and a new set of proofs generated.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedAbhinav, I think option 4 would generally work best. Option 2 might work as well; options 1 and 3 are not desirable. It is important to see the mark-up in situ. You might consider modifying option 4 or 2 so the mark-up fades a bit when the user begins to edit so one can see it is there but there will less danger of the point of editing being obscured.
This probably conflicts with the annotation coming into focus when overlapped by the cursor. I find Acrobat's method of bringing annotations into focus not easy to see. Fading might be a good alternative, though perhaps counterintuitive.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedThis is moving very much in the right direction. I am eager to test.
[1] I don't understand the information about unidentified comments on page 9 of your demo.
[2] Very happy to see filtering by commenting tool used.
[3] Having to import to an unmodified document fits our workflow nicely but I can see difficulties in shops where the designers continue working on a publication while editorial proofs are with the authors.
Both [1] and [3] look as if they will increase the need for careful supervision of editors, designers and authors and create additional administrative overhead.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI still want the ability to export notes to PDF but I'm happy to see you moving ahead with import. The proposed workflow sounds good to me but I'd like more information about what you consider to be 'the relevant portion of the layout' referenced by a comment and how that is to be highlighted.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedAbhinav, Thanks for this. I'm not up for a full beta programme at the moment but, when you start work on this feature, let us know and I'll test as needed.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedThe InDesign-InCopy workflow is fine for a publishing house with a staff of editors, designers, typesetters, and tech support. My work is with economists and policy analysts, in and out of house, who write in MSWord using only the minimal set of features necessary for them to complete a paper. I can usually induce them to mark-up proofs in Acrobat. They will not learn to use InCopy and they and their organisations will not invest in setting up such a system. Add to this that these authors are spread around the world and many do not have the resources to adopt InCopy. In addition, many travel internationally a great deal, making their revisions on aeroplanes or in hotels and aeroports.
Now, if InCopy were free and easy to use while disconnected …
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI hadn't thought of having the mark-up come back in as conditional text as it does in FM but that might be a really good way to piggy-back the function on existing tech. I would still like Sticky Notes to come in to ID as Notes.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI am trying to describe a workflow that satisfies Bart's requirements and also those of us who have expressed a preference for 'Workflow 2'.
[1] Acrobat's 'touchup edits' are to be ignored and discouraged.
[2] Acrobat's marked-up edits (deletions, replacements, insertions, etc.) should be brought back into ID in place, so they can be accepted or rejected, probably as a special class of tracked changes. This is more or less how track changes works in MSWord. In ID, they should be visible and operable in layout view, not Story Editor.
[3] Acrobat's Sticky Notes would appear in ID as Notes. Going the other direction, I would like to be able to insert queries as Notes, which would convert to Sticky Notes in Acrobat when the ID doc. is exported to PDF. The interface of Notes needs some work as well; control over the font used would help.
What have I missed?
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedTwo additional comments
[1] This request -- at least, how I conceive it -- is much like that called 'Make InDesign be able to import/Export comments from/to PDF'. (Is there a number assigned to the requests?)[2] See 'Export comments to Word (Windows)' on helpx.adobe.com; it appears that something like Bart's request is available with MSWord.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI would want Workflow 2. I send an edited and typeset PDF proof with queries to the author(s) and acquiring editor or head of research department for correxions. I most definitely do not want them changing the content or text in the PDF and ask for a PDF marked up with correxions, answers to queries, and comments.
What I would like is the ability to import the mark-up, correxions and comments on the PDF proof sent back by authors into the working document in ID. This is more or less what the plug-in from DTP Tools tries to do. It is not, if I understand Bart's comments, exactly what he is asking for.
It would be useful if the mark-up from the PDF was imported to its own layer in ID.
An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commented@Jongware: I tried the DTP tool but found that the 'suggestion' to work from back to front of the document not practicable for me; editorial decisions made earlier in a publication constrain those made later.
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The fix for this issue is now available in the latest update 14.0.2 of InDesign 2019.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI added my vote for this but as style varies by country (we don't write briefs but publish a fair number of papers that cite Canadian, US and UK law and cases--we follow Carswell) and the market may be both limited and fragmented, I wonder if this would best be served by a plug-in. I very much like the suggestions of a ToA and global word count. On the other hand, you can easily assign ctrl+I and ctrl+B via Keyboard Shortcuts … : look under Text and Tables > Apply bold, Apply italic.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedThere are two other threads making this request: 'Add run-in footnotes' and 'Add Inline footnotes and multi-column footnotes in a single-column story'. I suggest you add your vote to the former.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI have an annual publication that I have been typesetting in InDesign for at least 15 years. It includes a chapter that has around 155 pages of tables, one table of 60 rows, 15 columns per page. In the beginning, preview was very slow but this improved and from around CS6 up to CC2017, and I could work on this document with reasonable efficiency. I find upon opening in CC2018 the file from last year (set up in CC 2017) that perfomance has deteriorated markedly, to the extent that it now takes over 30 seconds merely to advance from one spread to the next. Other operations are equally, and unacceptably, slow. Using 'Fast Display' improves performance somewhat—over 10 seconds to advance from one spread to the next—but at the type sizes I am using makes the material very hard to read.
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An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedI agree: very useful feature in Illustrator; great to have it in InDesign
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An error occurred while saving the comment Lindsey Thomas Martin commentedThis is a good idea. For the time being, you might be able to approximate locking by assigning the legal passage to conditional text, which will have a special marking, and also perhaps hiding it during the editorial phase.
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Glad to see that you are considering this and hope that you will include columns, as I suggested in request, Discontiguous selection of rows and columns: 'Being able to select rows and columns that are not adjacent to one another would useful to me. For example, one would like to select columns 1 to 3 and 5 to 7, leaving column 4 unselected. Often I need to adjust the width of some columns or the height of some rows, leaving others in the middle of the table unadjusted. One instance is when I use a blank column or row to separate groups of data; another is when several discontiguous columns have much longer labels than other columns.'