Static Endnotes
I need a possibility to turn off the automatic endnote function that appears in InDesign CC 2018. It may be practical for some applications, but it greatly impedes the flexibility of many designs. Can someone tell me if this is possible – the endnotes don't need to be dynamic for my purposes. The way they were imported when placing a Word document in ID CC 2017 was fine.
Richt now, the only way I know to work around it is to use Peter Kahrel's footnote to endnote script.
Thomas Stark
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The fix for this issue is now available in the latest update (14.0.2) of InDesign 2019.
If you are unable to see the update notification, open the menu (three dots) from the top-right of Creative Cloud desktop application and click on ‘Check For App Updates’.
Once the update button is shown against InDesign, click on the button to update to Id 14.0.2.
If you face any problems with the new update, do let us know in the comments.
The list of fixed issues can be found at: helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/fixed-issues.html
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Adobe InDesign team
41 comments
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Anonymous
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14.0.2 does not fix this issue. If I import a docx with endnotes and set the endnotes to static, the note reference numbers come in with no superscript just as they did in 14.0.1. Imported the same docx into Indesign CC2017 with references superscripted. Incopy behaves the same way.
Am I missing a new setting? Can a hot fix be released?
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Thomas Stark
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I’m sorry, but this problem is not fixed. The imported endnotes references are still not in superscript and they are not associated with a character style; see my posting of 15 October 2018. Your colleague Ravi Kiran said he was looking into the problem on 21 October but has not provided a solution until now. I am using ID CC 14.0.1 x64 (German); as far as I can tell, this is the present version. This has been a problem since 2017! Please help!
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Matt Mayerchak
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When was it fixed? Has it been updated after CC2019 came out? At the moment, the static endnotes feature cannot be used because it strips the superscript formatting, making it impossible to find the endnote refs and apply a character style to them. I don't see a new InDesign update available.
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Anonymous
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Trouble is Abhinav, that you - Adobe - took so so long to fix something - that was not even broken in the first place. No apology, no understanding.
Next time you introduce a new feature, it should be fully tested before being released, this 'dynamic' note thing was not. -
Anonymous
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While it's nice to be able to import footnotes and convert t endnotes, having no ability to then convert endnotes to 'static' is causing big headaches and wasting time. If text has to be cut and pasted into a separate box, it seems to delete the notes and likewise cutting and pasting endnotes completely messes things up. If I put a caption with endnote reference in it's own text box, poof, no more endnote. PLEASE FIX THIS!
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Ann Marr
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Working with an imported Word document in CC 2018. Endnotes were manually typed in Word to avoid automatic numbering. To import the doc into InDesign, the numbers did not resemble endnote numbering, but appeared to be normal text. Now, in InDesign, once the numbers were superscripted (manually, not by using a style), they became automatic and are changing.
Example: endnote 81 is supposed to be 1880 census... but was Civil War Draft. I printed the endnotes, started checking them, and suddenly endnote 81 is correct, but 83 is wrong. Each time I open the document, different endnotes have changed numbers. With nearly 900 endnotes, this is a disaster.
The endnotes are in a separate document from the text. I had created a book doc to manage the book (4 sections: text, report, endnotes, and index) but have now deleted it, hoping to eliminate the problem. But I have to check all those notes.
With a copy of the InDesign doc, will try inserting the endnotes and see if I can straighten it out. But I resent having this monumental job thrown at me. This is a book for publication - the endnotes MUST be correct.
In conclusion, when the imported Word document has numbers typed in as if they are words, InDesign should recognize that automatic numbering is not desired, especially when a style is not applied. They were not to be static or dynamic endnotes - they were to be text I handled manually.
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William Overbeeke
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I am also noticing that Endnotes are being stripped of their character style and superscript on import when the Static Endnotes option is chosen. Hope this is fixed in the next update!
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Thomas Stark
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I was thrilled to find out that the newest update of InDesign (14.0 x64) gives me the possibility to import the endnotes as static endnotes. HOWEVER: the references in the text are no longer in superscript and no longer have a character style, which means I have to go through the document, find 100s of notes and format them manually, hoping I don't format the wrong numbers. This is no satisfactory solution. Can you fix this?
Until then, I guess that means back to Peter Kahrel. Why is this so difficult for you? It used to work just fine. -
Anonymous
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Dear Abhinav Agarwal,
The beta build release notes suggest that this feature is not part of the release plan (see InDesign CC Prerelease FRQ ID - ID-4203074). Please can you provide an update on the status of this request?
Regards,
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Anonymous
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It's now August 2018 and I do not see any resolution to this issue. I just lost 2 days of work reading everything I could find online, trying to get a script to work, and using the Adobe online chat because I could not get through on the phone. I was told in the chat that there is no way around this.
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Cole Schweikhardt
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The ability to unlink endnote references and the endnotes is ESSENTIAL. There are many cases in which this is imperative. In a large publication endnotes may start over each chapter or section. All the publication's end notes may need to be placed at the end of the publication organized by chapter/section. A publication may be set up as a Book and be comprised of many documents each with their own endnote order...on and on and on. This DEFINITELY should be a feature that can be optional.
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Ruben
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I have a problem with the new end note system in indesign 2018
I have a document were I would like to have the images on Layer 1.
The english text for the book on layer 2, and the danish text on layer 3. -
When I place the danish text on layer 3 the danish end notes is added to the english end notes on layer 2 - creating total chaos in my document. I really don know what to do? -
Quentin Wilson
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Again, please don’t throw the baby away... Dynamic endnotes in InDesign are long overdue. But they need an “off” button. Many of the books I design I then export in .idml format and send to layout contractors who still work in CS6, which they own, and they don’t subscribe to Creative Cloud. With InDesign 2018, however, exporting or saving back to .idml (or any ealier version) immediately strips all endnotes out of the file, including all in-text reference numbers. Any book with endnotes that I am designing for my contrators must be done in InDesign 2017. It is all well and good that both 2017 and 2018 can be available together, but it gets very confusing, and enormously frustrating. Surly it cannot be that difficult to have an option for either dynamic or static endnotes...? (By the latter I mean endnotes as they are in all earlier versions of InDesin than 2018.)
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Connie Richardson
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Just upgraded to CC 2018 and was shocked that endnotes are now not working as before. Please fix this dynamic endnote problem pronto!
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LGoddard
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(Assuming like many) I need the ability to turn off the automatic endnote function that appears in InDesign CC 2018. It may be practical for some applications, but it greatly impedes the flexibility of designs.
Please have an option to disable dynamic endnotes. This new feature is creating all sorts of havoc for me as a magazine designer
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JSaunders
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Please have an option to disable dynamic endnotes. This new feature is creating all sorts of havoc for me as a book designer.
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Quentin Wilson
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As a book-only designer of 30+ years standing (yes, since PageMaker 1...) I have to say that for most long books with sometimes many, many hundreds of Endnotes the new system works fine, if you understand it. I can see that it is certainly impossible when doing individual articles in a magazine or journal and I have such an impossible situation at present with many letters that have editor's Endnotes (not Footnotes) that must remain at the end of each letter, all letters being in one Word file to start with – and that does require beginning in CC2017. But all this really needs from Adobe is a simple button to click to turn the new Endnotes function off. And I do NOT mean the one that already exists in the ''Place'' dialogue box, which simply eliminates all Endnotes from the placed file.
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Anonymous
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As AMC mentioned, building a document in CC2017, then opening in CC2018 is an easy enough workaround.
I noticed no one had mentioned that CC2018 does not recognize section breaks when stringing multiple chapters together in one document. I.e., the chapters notes are all continuously numbered. So, its really a two-pronged problem for me. Fortunately both issues are resolved by starting a galley in CC2017. -
AMC
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Dynamic endnotes have been one of the most-requested features for InDesign ever. People want them work like Footnotes do when importing from Word.
This "1.0" implementation leaves a lot to be desired ... especially the ability to import them as static ... but in the meantime, why not just place/import into CC 2017, then open that INDD in CC2018? The CC app lets you install and use both..
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Thomas Stark
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In case this helps anybody: At present, I can only help myself by making sure that the Word document has footnotes (not endnotes), and and after placing it in Indesign use Peter Kahrel's foot_to_end_dynamic.jsx script; then I have to change bullets to text, and then delete cross references. At this point I’m where I was in InDesign CC 2017, when I simply placed a Word document with endnotes in InDesign. I hope somebody at Adobe comes up with a fix soon.