ID 2020 - Indent in combination with wrap text around an image not working
In Indesign 2020, whenever I want to wrap text next to an image, but the text also has an indent the text jumps from the supposed position.
In Indesign 2019 this did not happen. The text was wrapped nicely next to the image, the way you should expect.
My guess what happens here, is that the indent specs are applied not the the edge of the frame, but to the edge of the text. Which corrupts the spacing between the image and the text.
I'm working with the latest 2020 version on iMac with Catalina
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Text wrap normal 2019 but 2020 version not working. Something wrong
Maybe related, but in an older file, when there is a bulleted list next to a text-wrapped photo, there is now a large margin between the photo and the text (forcing the rest of the long chapter in this book to be off.) The bullet paragraphs continue below the photo and the margin continues to be off. It is in every chapter. Quite a nightmare.
Some regular text paragraphs are compositing/reflowing differently now too--occasionally. I am having to look through every one of the 750-page book!
Maureen Forys commented
Is there any update from Adobe. This is INFURIATING.
I cannot work in InDesign 2020 anymore and am moving back to 2019. This bug is causing major headaches for files that have to go to print and the risks are too great. I open files, it reflows and there is no way to fix it.
I thought I was going mad. I have indented text which was wrapping beautifully around call-out text boxes. Now I'm having to redo the entire document as the indent is treating the text box as the left margin. Not happy at all, and it's hardly something I can recoup time/costs for from my client!!!
Ian Davies commented
Good lord, after reading the link below I've just realised the enormity of what Adobe's done here. Surely when addressing a bug that’s been around this long and will have obviously affected so many documents, it’s just a flat out *requirement* that you make the fix optional? Make the legacy behaviour an option that is off by default, but which can be enabled to avoid suddenly causing huge problems on older documents?? No warning that this "fix" was coming, no info on how to preserve the old layout under the new behaviour. This is beyond irresponsible by Adobe. Can't tell you how much extra time and work (which I can't *charge* for) you've caused me with this.
**EDIT** Obviously I'm commenting in the specific context of this issue itself, not as something so important in the greater scheme of things. I hope everyone at Adobe stays safe during the current health crisis.
Ian Davies commented
Ok, so the fix for one problem has now caused another problem. How are we supposed to deal with this new problem? How do I get the same layout as before?
Apparently this is not a bug, it's a fix to a long standing issue which makes it appear as a 2020 bug.
My workaround is a script that makes adjustments to files created ≤ ID2019 to ID2020. In the script can select based on page sizes.
Tried keeping two versions of ID 2019 and 2020 running but this ended up being a real pain to manage... and only a temp fix until they stop 2019.
Wondering why Adobe has not addressed problem, or offered a cleaner solution. For people who frequently edit files created in ID versions older than 2020 its a big problem.
We are having this same issue with a 670 page document. This is a critical fix for us. Have there been any updates?
Same problem and we work with lengthy books too. What a hassle.
I raised this with Adobe back in November, I followed up with them last week. They said there's no progress they can share, but they do intend to create a fix. For the meantime I'm working in the previous 2019 version of ID as my styling in my catalogue can't be fixed (reasonably) with a work around such as removing the text wrap and manually adjusting the indent etc. This is extremely frustrating.
I presume there is no more news on this issue. Has anyone find an appropriate work-around?
Any updates? This is a massive pain!
Are there any updates to this issue?
I am having the same problem when using ID2020, and notice it when I try to use paragraph styles created in previous versions.
there is an object along the edge of the page, when I apply a paragraph style with just the correct indent for that object (including the space for wrap), the text jumps to twice the required indent.
A workaround seems to be "no wraparound" for the image, copy paragraph style and adjust the indent.
Unfortunately this is time consuming and clunky.
please, please.... hope you will extend the licence for few months... we can not work and use the software with payed licence... Im very unhappy.
Just checking in... Is there a fix for this yet? It's driving me bonkers.
Another Anonymous commented
Having this same problem. Causing completely random and unpredictable line indents. One line indents, next doesn't. Two following indent. Next don't. Move text-wrapped object slightly and pattern of indents changes. Really frustrating and problematic, introducing random errors when files updated. Sometimes problem happens just opening doc, sometimes after adjusting text near indented/wrapped object.
Any update on this?
I'm working on the same team and we are still plagued by this issue. Could it be that a changed preference in the new software is combining the left indent value of a paragraph with the text wrap value?
It seems more natural for the left indented paragraph's indent value to be absorbed into the image text wrap value (which was the InDesign 2019 behavior.)
As my teammate stressed this has presented an extraordinary amount of work for us. Expediency on addressing this issue would be appreciated.
I commented earlier today about this problem in our files. I've done more testing to see how many files the bug will affect. At first I thought it might just be that we were opening an older file (2017). But when I tested it with a brand new document, I had the same results. See the attachments.
Textwrap-2019.jpg: a new file in INDD 14.0.3 with filler text and an object with text wrap. Note that the header text is set to a 2 inch left indent, and the object has a substantial text wrap.
Textwrap-2020.jpg: When I first open the file in INDD 15.0.1, everything looks the same. But as soon as I make any change to the text box, it jumps to look like in the attached image. I tried it a few times and it did the same thing whether I moved the text box up a single space with the arrow button, or if I typed something into the text box.
I hope this helps the issue get solved faster. Thanks.
Same problem in our files. I work for an educational publisher and we do a lot of reprints. Now when we prepare a book for reprinting, we have to reproof every page to make sure this issue hasn't caused bumping and overset text. (Because that's what it did in the first file we opened.)
We're using Indesign 15.0.1 on a PC.