[Break in CC 2018] Text frame properties lost when copying and pasting frames across document
I have a document that uses top justification in a text frame, and bottom justification in another text frame. When I copy these frames, with or without any other objects, into a new document (think business card imposition), the bottom justification changes to top justification, altering the layout of the document.
I have reset my preferences, and tried the fixes described here: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2402361 and here https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2401857
With no success.
Attached is a 1UP file (Original with mixed justification) and a 24UP file (with resulting error)
Fix is available in version 13.1 of InDesign.
Please update to the latest version available to you via Creative Cloud Desktop application.
Thanks,
Adobe InDesign team
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Gareth Lind commented
I think it's the same issue, just phrased differently. When you copy any text box with insets or other settings in InDesign (2017 or 18) and paste it into a different file in InDesign 2018, the text box settings are reset to their default -- that is, no insets.
This is easy to reproduce. I asked a designer friend to try it and the same thing happened. Try it.
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Gareth Lind commented
Text frame options are not copied over from one InDesign 2018 document to another. All options are removed, and I need to re-input them all (inset spacing, baseline options, etc.). This is incredibly frustrating, as I often copy assets from one document to another. There was no problem with this in InDesign 2017. It is clearly a bug.
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Patrick commented
Hi, a note to say that I'm also experiencing this problem using the workflow as described by @amaarora - all text frame options are lost when copying a text frame from an ID CC 2017 document into an ID CC 2018 document.
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Anonymous commented
David Goodwin commented · January 03, 2018 09:42 · Flag as inappropriate
Hey, for folks looking for a quick fix: you SHOULD be able to stop this from happening by going into the default objects styles and unchecking pretty much everything, in all documents involved. I don't know how bulletproof this is, but so far it's working for us.David, could you tell me the steps you took to do this? Please, Thank you. Erin
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Anonymous commented
I am wishing I could go back to 2017 version, I have to change every text box from top up text to vertical alignment through Text frames. I have 10 thousand ads and this seems silly to have to change each time I put an old customer ad into our magazine
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Mike commented
Same problem as everyone else. Batch exporting a ".indb" book and synching that book will result in all text vertical alignment changing to top aligned. VERY frustrating when you're working on an 80 page catalog and everything bottom aligned suddenly changes to top aligned.
I am also experiencing the issue of copying from a 2018CC file into another 2018CC file. If a text box is bottom aligned, it will change to top aligned when pasted into a new doc. Argh.
Question: how do I uncheck the "Text Frame General Options" in the Object Style Options window? For me, unchecking it just turns the checkmark into a dash. When I close the window and open it again, it reverts to a checkmark. How do you permanently uncheck it?
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Anonymous commented
This is causing a lot of problems that i didnt had in 2017 version.... big mess from adobe
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David Goodwin commented
Hey, for folks looking for a quick fix: you SHOULD be able to stop this from happening by going into the default objects styles and unchecking pretty much everything, in all documents involved. I don't know how bulletproof this is, but so far it's working for us.
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David Goodwin commented
Update: both of the above issues are on the "Text Frame General Options" tab of the object styles panel. If I had to guess, I'd say that the update (for some reason) starting applying that tab when it had not been applied before.
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David Goodwin commented
Recently updated from CC2017. Now at 13.0.1. My team has the same issue on several computers and different files. It looks like this:
We have a book files with many "chapters.' Master pages are synced. Since the update, syncing the documents causes one of the following two issues on some, but not all, text boxes:
1) Number of columns set to 1; or
2) Text inset set to 0This can happen within a synced Master Page: ie, the same page synced across two documents has 2 columns in the source and 1 column in the chapter.
Turning "sync object styles" on and off fixes this problem in some text boxes - but creates an identical problem in other objects. So far, we can't obvious reason why some text boxes work one way and some the other. We don't otherwise use object styles, and nobody on my team has ever reset the default object styles.
My best guess is that some text boxes are picking up default object styles from the source file, and others from the "local" default object styles.
It looks like we can manually fix each instance by tweaking the object styles, but there's clearly an underlying bug: object styles behave differently since the update. Either they are overriding the manual styles during sync, or styles have become arbitrarily "checked" during the upgrade, or something else is happening.
This resembles some issues I've seen on the community forums, although none were exactly identical.
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Jessie Kendall-Marks commented
Some members on my marketing team are having a similar problem that may be originating from a previous version of Indesign when copying and pasting from files that are only months old (CC 2017 perhaps, and now we're in CC 2018). 2-column text boxes are automatically changing to 1-column text boxes, where the "Text Frame Options" for that object (the text box) are not being maintained. There's nothing under Indesign Preferences to help objects maintain these settings and override this bug, I've tried what feels like everything — and this should be effecting every major publishing company out there — quite a frustration. Adobe tech gurus, please fix fast!
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Joe commented
Very disappointed with Adobe, considering it has been now a subscription base, and yet we still have to deal with so many bugs.
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Anonymous commented
Yes, reproducible, but on my system it is not only vertical justification. It appears that *all* of the object style overrides (including vertical justification) are being reset to their defaults after the paste.
There is also the other issue (mentioned in previous comment) where an object style override is (apparently) being applied immediately to every text frame as soon as it is created in CC 2018 (and also in CC 2017) but not in earlier versions.
This all points to some issue with the handling of object styles and overrides in general.
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Nicola commented
Yes, the issue you have reproduced is what happens when i try to do these steps
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Gareth Lind commented
Another thing that is stripped is the Baseline Options from Text Frame Options. It always goes to default "Ascent" when in both the file it is coming from and the file it is going to is set at my standard, "Cap Height." Very frustrating, as I have to reset manually every time. ID 2017 didn't do this. Will revert for this reason.
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Gareth Lind commented
I have the same problem. Just copied a text box from one file to another. I have "preserve formatting" selected for the clipboard preferences, but the text box insets are stripped when placed.
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sab commented
Copying a frame to another document - the text is jumping vertically from "Frame Bottom" to "Edge UP"
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Ann commented
Hi,
I have the same problem. I am the designer of two newspapers. Sometimes, they uses some of the same articles. I KNOW that copy/paste of a text box, ex. 5 columns, has ALWAYS worked fine in the past. After installing latest InDesign, text frames always loses columns and inset spacing, if there were any. Same settings in all dokuments. Today I also experienced making a text box outside the document, and the formatting changed when I dragged it into the page. Going crazy here. This has to be some kind of bug?
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Tom Van Damme commented
Pasting resets all Text Frame Options, apparently. I lose font and style as well.
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Tom Van Damme commented
Same here - when copying a text box all attributes seem to get lost: font, styles, text frame options like inset spacing and vertical justification, it resets the pasted text box to default settings.