Joel Cherney
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Hi all,
Thanks for the detailed feedback on this thread. Reopening it, because we're still actively working on the issue. A few updates:
Relinking: the case where manually entered alt text was overwritten by generated alt text on relink was fixed in 21.4. If you're still seeing manual alt text get overwritten after relinking, reply here with a sample file and your InDesign version and we'll investigate directly.
Remove all generated alt text: an option to remove all generated alt text from a document in a single action is on the way.
We hear the wider feedback here too, and we're keeping this open while we work through it.
Best regards,
Sunny
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Hi,
Thank you for reporting the issue. It is currently under investigation.
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I'm scrolling through these posts and, while I basically agree that these new-blue-dot-notification features for new users are actively interfering with my daily work, many of the suggestions being posted resolve to a request for some kind of preference that affects this behavior. Since we are (as has been noted by other posters, many times) resetting our preferences on a very regular basis, that doesn't seem like a functional way to allow experienced users to supress the out-of-the-box experience that the InDesign developers have built. Let's be clear, here -- we are resetting our preferences all the time due to flaws in InDesign, right? It's not a reasonable workflow expectation, to be required to FREQUENTLY remove all workspace customizations in order to get a basic layout feature to work as designed. And this fact means that we're getting the new-installation behavior on a very regular basis; we're seeing it so often that we're asking you to please, please give us a way to STOP seeing the new-installation experience.
Not sure how you'd handle it in macOS, but it's pretty normal in Windows for an application to use the Registry in such a way as to make it easy for us to turn off New User Blue Dots with a reghack. Similarly, I used to use some audio manipulation software that allowed you to set those kinds of super-preferences (ones you'd lose if you reset your preferences, right?) by leaving 0-byte text files in the main application directory, with names like NoUserInteraction.txt or ResetAllPrefsAtLaunch.txt.
In a similar vein, there are already InDesign end user hacks where I found editing a .plist -- on a Windows box. I did a bit of a double-take, seeing that, but that seems like a fairly obvious choice for an app that has to be cross-platform.
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I was going to post a separate bug report, but I suspect that I'm experiencing the bug you're posting about, but from a slightly different angle. When I updated from 21.3 to 21.4, InDesign happily kept my settings from the previous install. Everything in my preferences in 21.4 that was present in 21.3 was just as I'd left it, except for the Generative AI Alt Text settings, which had turned themselves back on.
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This issue is under review.
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Hi Naina,
Relinking generates AI alt text for images which already had human-written alt text. This happens on files I have stored locally. I have to relink my clients' linked images literally every single time I get a new package from them (maybe two to ten times per business day?). Looking at one right here where, if I don't relink the images, the alt text shows
logo of [my client's name]
If I relink the images, it reads
A logo for the company "Sony".
Description generated by AI
I can only guess at the number of images I've relinked over the last week.
Happy to provide a screen recording if it would be useful to do so.
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I posted a thread about this issue to the InDesign product discussion here: https://community.adobe.com/questions-671/layer-panel-refresh-when-switching-documents-1561356
This behavior wasn't always the default; I can verify that in InDesign CS5.5 (v7.5.1) the Layers panel ("palette" at the time, I think?) didn't refresh when switching between open documents; layers remained highlighted, sublayers remained expanded. If it'd be helpful, I can do some research to pinpoint exactly which release was the first without this functionality.
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Thanks for reporting the issue. We're reviewing this.
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We have added this feature in our backlog for future release
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I discovered (too late!) that I had been experiencing frequent overwriting of alt text upon relink in 21.4. Clearing preferences seems to have resolved it; I can't recreate that issue, nor any of the other exciting genAI alt text bugs that I'd seen, post preference-reset. I think I can provide a sample file that /used/ to display this behavior, if you're interesting in looking at it, but since it doesn't actually induce the buggy behavior any longer, I don't know how rewarding it will be for you to examine it. Given the above, I've settled on suggesting to my customers that they reset their preferences before opening any package I send them.
Good to see that an option to remove all generated alt text in a single action is "on the way." Unfortunately for me, it was last week that I needed it! In the interim, I've written my own tool to do so, but I'm glad to hear that you have something in development. In a very similar way, I'm relieved to see the "RESOLVED FOR USER" tag replaced with "UNDER REVIEW."