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We're happy to announce that the fix for this issue is now available in the latest update of InDesign - version 17.2 that is available from Creative Cloud Desktop application.
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Tragic, but probably true.
I first encountered a solid implementation for run-in headings in Ami Pro (later Lotus Word Pro, and then butchered beyond all recognition as IBM Lotus Word Pro for Teams). It was even possible in Lotus Manuscript, a DOS-based super document designer with a graphical "preview" mode, before we settled in the land of GUI. It may even be possible in PageMaker or FrameMaker (a weird pair of not-quite-equivalent tools if ever there was one).
Mainly, though, it's a STANDARD design style, as Andy points out, that's been around since books. Why it's not supported -- except by a clumsy, inflexible work-around -- is proof that the InDesign product management isn't really dedicated to the full possibilities of digital document design.
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Here's a simple example (attached). The problem is that CHARACTER STYLES have been used, instead of Paragraph Styles. As a result, the design is inflexible, and you can't globally change these run-in headings into separate headings.
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I have to conclude that this request either isn't well understood by other users, or it's so old that nobody ever sees it.
A paragraph style for a HEADING should provide complete control to reproduce ALL COMMONLY USED HEADING STYLES in books and magazines.
InDesign does a great job on most styles, but it doesn't allow a heading ON THE SAME LINE as the paragraph that follows. This is very widely used in all sorts of publications. With InDesign, you can FAKE it, but when the heading needs to be changed to a different style, it can't be done with styles! This is because the run-in APPEARANCE can't be achieved with a paragraph style.
(The work-around is to use nested styles, but that means the "heading" is not a separate paragraph with its own style, so it can't be changed to another style.)
This missing functionality prevents documents from fully using Styles for all design elements. A big nuisance, and a big obstacle to making best use of InDesign.
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I can't believe there is still no way to make run-in headings!
Sure, I can fake them, but not as actual headings. Anonymous's suggested solution would work great!
I used to use settings just like what he's saying back in Lotus's AmiPro word processor. It seems incredible that InDesign can't do this.
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The utility of the opening page, Recents, etc., is embarassingly limited. This would help a lot to overcome such annoyances as "filling the Recents list with the chapters of one book project" after, for example, a repagination operation. If you have 30 chapters in a book, the Recents list becomes USELESS. At least with a Favorites option we could keep a few current work-products in view.
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This is an important feature. Although indenting everything ELSE is an ok work-around, it's a bit silly in such an advanced compositor environment.
This also might be a precursor to providing for real run-in headings. But I'm getting off-topic. I think there's an FR for that somewhere....
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The startup page should use its real estate for more important things, like controlling the Recents list. It's also insulting to the intelligence of the user to throw pep-talk at her or him. Professional tools are the WRONG place for this kind of condescending, childish, totally irrelevant noise.
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As a former software architect, I've always wondered why "dump capitalization" is the norm throughout editing apps, and has been since Day One -- it's not that hard to do!
The preferred rule should be selectable on a per-document basis so we don't have to keep picking the rule to use (although that could be done, if a specific title needed to be handled differently).
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Thank you all for the votes.
Can you help us understand the key problems that you face in the absence of ability to send an anchored image backwards?
What’s the current workaround that you have to follow?
What are the use cases wherein you need that the text appears specifically on top of inline anchored image?
This information will help us evaluate the functionality better.
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Hydra's enhancement is a very good idea. A discreet little COPY button in each section would do it.
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Absolutely! It is much better UX to see all the settings instead of using a drop-down to select. Since they all fit, this would be more convenient in many ways.
As a general rule, if there are only a few choices, radio buttons or tabs are better than drop-downs. Better yet, show all the choices at once if there's room
One big problem with drop-downs is that you have to click just to see what the choices are. These controls should only be used when there are too many choices to show them all at once.
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The fix for this issue is now available in the latest update 14.0.2 of InDesign 2019.
If you are unable to see the update notification yet, open the menu (three dots) from the top-right of Creative Cloud desktop application and click on ‘Check For App Updates’.
Once the update button is shown against InDesign, click on the button to update to Id 14.0.2.If you face any problems with the new update, do let us know in the comments.
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Release 13.1 x64 STILL doesn't follow standard Windows UI behavior. The app opens in "restored" mode (that is, the window size last used when the app was closed) INCORRECTLY. It always opens at 99% of full screen.
This means that people with big screens have to manually resize the app window EVERY TIME they start a new session with InDesign. This is (a) inconvenient, and (b) extremely annoying after one has done it a few hundred times.
No other Windows apps that I use have this bug. It's standard Windows UI behavior to honor the "restore" window size and position.
PLEASE fix this bug. It's been in InDesign fora very long time (forever?).
Thank you.
@Erica - You're correct. It just happens on the first instance, which makes it hard to compensate. The resulting text ends up with either no space in the first instance, or two spaces in all the rest. This bug is related to the "missing space bug" in text variables. Forced returns in running heads are not replaced by spaces in the first instance, but the space is inserted in all the subsequent instances. These little things create big headaches, especially when they're allowed to go so long without getting fixed.