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Collaborative Editing

Create a cloud service for InDesign where files can be worked on by numerous people at the same time. Will help save time and encourage collaboration. Like Google Docs, Slides, etc.

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    Kate Cusick shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Thanks for making this request. In order to understand the use-case more better I have a few questions:

    1. Whats the role of the different people working collaboratively on the same file. Are they always only designers or are other personas also involved.
    2. What is the use-case here, some parts of this request suggest an Editorial collaboration whereas others suggest collaboration amongst different designers. I am trying to separate these 2 requests out.
    3. What are the different kind of files (brochures, books, magazines etc) for which this is required.
    4. Does it need to be a web based service, or having the user be able to collaborate on one shared file using InDesign or InCopy on the Desktop will work? What is the advantage you feel over a web-service over the desktop app?
    5. How do you workaround this need today? What are the most important problems with the current workaround?

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      • Thomas Hallgren commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        That someone at Adobe needs to ask for a use case scenario IS the problem. Okay then, like GOOGLE DOCS.

      • Brian Hassett commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This is terrible that multiple users cannot work on the same file. What is this, 1985 or something? This technology has been readily available for decades! What is this Adobe amateur hour?
        This is mind-blowingly 3rd rate that I can't collaborate . . . on something you misleadingly call the Creative Cloud.
        How is this possible?
        Does anybody read this?

      • Lindsey Thomas Martin commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Javed, I believe you are correct that there are two use cases. I'll call them [1] editorial and [2] collaborative.

        [1] Editorial, when editorial, design and production work with authors, in-house or out of house, who have written a piece that will be published under their names. In this case, it is important that changes to the text and design be clearly presented to the authors on the proofs, their correxions included, and their approval of final page proofs secured. Tracking changes and controlling versions is very important as lawsuits are possible if such a piece is published and the author discovers correxions not made or unapproved changes after publication.

        [2] Collaborative, when writers, editorial, design and production, often some in house and others out of house, work to produce a publication and/or a set of collateral assets for an organisation. The chief needs here are, I think, for a tracked but flexible exchange of ideas and suggestions as the products are written, designed, and produced.

        Would one service fit both cases? Possibly, though I think the collaborative workflow is where you will find the low-hanging fruit, for reasons put forward in the discussion of import and export of comments between ID and PDF. We run both workflows in parallel though, at the moment, the editorial uses sequential proofs in PDF sent via e-mail, and the collaborative relies heavily on face-to-face meetings.

      • Klaas commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Hi Javed,

        regarding your questions here my feedback:

        1. Different cases are possible. Designers are on group of users, editors (text & picture), translators, reviewers, too.
        2. both can be possible
        3. In my eyes mostly bigger once, like the things you mentioned. But smaller once, like flyer can occur, too.
        4. Wether is is web based or file based is a question of use cases. Designers with InDesign don't need a web based service in first place. Web based services are much more interesting for editors, e.g. that create texts for more channels, than print.
        5. Its differs from the use case. Problems today: Only one person can work at an indesign file at a time. Editors need InCopy, that require at least some kind of introduction. Today editors often use word or collaborative tool, like GoogleDocs – for that there is no good way of integration without plugins or any mechanism for updated content.

        Best, Klaas

      • Matthias commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I totally agree with Anne-Marie! I was also really disappointed to find the InDesign/InCopy workflow collaborating via E-Mail. I was searching an hour for "Save the inCopy-file in the CC)! And now I'm wondering if there's no comment from an adobe-staff since September 20 … This is not a really lively forum. Just a few posts … this must be possible … But it seems like no one take care of the users-opinion … :-( And the user doing a good job in delivering adobe new ideas and showing them how far away they are from competitors cloud-services …

      • Georg Stadler commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        We try to implement this right now in our publishing house. We are trying very hard to make an Indesign/Incopy workflow work with a team spread out over the country. It's hard right now.

      • Anne-Marie Concepcion commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Once again I'm dealing with a magazine client who moved to CC for Teams so they could all use the CC Files workspace for an InDesign/InCopy workflow, in lieu of a shared server. They are bitterly disappointed that this logical place to store live publication files doesn't work reliably with check-in/check-out etc. They're going to try GSuite next, which is what they're all using, no fileserver in site. They are totally cloud-based. The "Creative Cloud" name led them astray. I would love to see this rectified.

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