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The fix of the issue is now available in the latest InDesign 2024(v19.5.0.084). We recommend you upgrade to the latest version for the fix.
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The issue has been fixed in the latest release of InDesign – InDesign 2021.
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Adobe InDesign teamAn error occurred while saving the comment An error occurred while saving the comment Eric Pawley commentedInDesign 16.0.0.60 x64 (Mainline CL #1084417) is much improved, but still has issues. In the attached file (copy-paste RFA Khmer) the text is typed with Zero width space between words:
-- ទំព័រហ្វេសបុក "facebook page" is broken before the final letter in the word.
-- The name អាឡិកហាន់ដ្រូ "Alejandro" is broken between syllables.
-- The punctuation mark ៗ "repetition sign (U+17D7)" should be attached to the word before it (ផ្សេង)
An error occurred while saving the comment Eric Pawley commentedI confirmed that this bug still exists in ID 2021 PR (16.0.0.36)
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An error occurred while saving the comment Eric Pawley commentedI agree with this suggestion, and want to emphasize the importance of this either being an optional setting, or include smarts so that it's only active on Lao-language texts (by using a dictionary, or only active when ZWSP is absent), since many other languages also use the Lao script and will want word breaks ONLY at ZWSP.
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Hi,
Can you please share a sample file with which the issue is reproducible?Thanks
amaarora@adobe.comAn error occurred while saving the comment Eric Pawley commentedHere's a sample using the Khmer Mondulkiri font which can be obtained from https://software.sil.org/mondulkiri/. I've underlined locations where optical kerning causes characters to touch.
I can't upload a file to this forum, so here's a Dropbox link to it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wo297z6ioww8gr7/Khmer_Optical_Kerning.indd?dl=0
Eric Pawley supported this idea ·An error occurred while saving the comment Eric Pawley commentedI also am seeing the issue, but with the Khmer Mondulkiri font. Optical kerning works fine in v14, but in v15, about 10% of letter pairs are kerned too closely, so letter forms actually touch or overlap slightly.
Metric kerning works fine.
I've tested the release, 16.0.0.77, and find that the bugs I listed in 16.0.0.60 are still present.
The most obvious error is the line break before ៗ "repetition sign (U+17D7), which should never be permitted.
But the word ហ្វេសបុក "Facebook" is still breaking in the middle of a syllable between បុ andក.
Line breaking for "Khmer" words appears to be acceptable, but line breaking for non-Khmer words is very bad. In addition to borrowed English words in Khmer texts, the Khmer script is used to write many other languages including Bunong, Kuy, Jarai, Tampuan, Kreung, and Brao.
Up until InDesign 2019, line breaking worked very well for these languages. With InDesign 2020 and 2021, about 10-20% of lines are broken in the middle of words. The only workaround of which I am aware is to apply "NoBreak" to all text and then use a Grep Style to allow breaks only at white space characters or zero width space.