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    7 comments  ·  Adobe InDesign: Bugs » Text/Story/Table  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hello All,

    Thank you for your patience all this while.
    This issue is now fixed in the latest update (Id 14.0.1) of InDesign CC.
    If you are unable to see the update notification yet, open the menu (three dots) from the top-right of Creative Cloud desktop application and click on ‘Check For App Updates’.

    Once the update button is shown against InDesign CC, click on the button to update your InDesign to Id 14.0.1 for the fix of the issue.
    Do let us know in the comments, if you face any problem with the new update.

    List of fixed issues can be found at: helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/fixed-issues.html

    Regards,
    InDesign Team

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    Matthew Williams commented  · 

    Seems to be working now. Thanks! Now if I could only convince you that the kerning problem caused by the World-Ready Composer is as serious. :->

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    Matthew Williams commented  · 

    Hi Aman

    No, this issue does not appear in 13.1; it's new to 14.

    I can't supply my client's file, but I have made a copy of it and replaced the content with Greeking. It should be enough to show you what's happening. I will send the example as a reply to your email. I didn't record a video, but it's easy to replicate. Just click an insertion point anywhere in the first paragraph and type a space or any other character. The entire paragraph will change to small caps, which is defined by a nested character style.

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    Ahh. I wondered what the limiting variable was, but I didn't have time to track it down right now. Thanks for the heads up.

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    10 comments  ·  Adobe InDesign: Bugs » Text/Story/Table  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hello All,
    Thank you for reporting the issue to us.
    We have fixed the issue in the latest version of InDesign, Id 15.0

    Please upgrade your InDesign application to the latest version to try out the fix.

    If you face any problems with the new update, do let us know in the comments.

    You may also follow the below given link for the list of all fixed issues in Id 15.0
    https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/fixed-issues.html

    -InDesign Team

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    Hello Uwe

    Just getting back to this after being overwhelmed with work. Thanks for the links. I'm relieved to know that other people are having the same problem, but I'm disappointed that Adobe seems not to care.

    I have done some more testing by changing preferences, changing paragraph settings, changing character settings, monkeying with saving memory, changing display performance—all to no avail. I too at one time thought that the discretionary line break triggers the bug, but after my latest testing, I'm pretty confident that it does not. Like one of the posters in the threads you provided, I am convinced the that bug is a recomposition problem. InDesign is simply giving up before it finishes composing the text.

    Incomplete recomposition seems to be the underlying cause of two additional bugs that I have reported: Left indents at the top of a page are sometimes not honored until you force InDesign to recompose all stories, and preferences for rules above split footnotes are sometimes not honored after the footnote flow is changed until you open up the footnotes options dialog and change the rule settings, which seems to cause InDesign to reevaluate the treatment of all of the footnotes in the document.

    About half of the books I typeset now have Hebrew or Arabic in them, and this bug is just so frustrating. If there were a viable workaround, it wouldn't be so bad, but there's just nothing effective. I have tried converting the Hebrew and Arabic to outlines, but as another poster pointed out, where the text includes a Hebrew or Arabic phrase—vs. an isolated word—this can create more serious problems, so I've abandoned that workaround.

    I hope that Adobe eventually decides to fix errors in the existing version of the program before focusing their attention on new features. I finally caved in to the subscription model (which I still detest) mostly because I was hoping that they would update the program with bug fixes on a monthly basis and would eventually fix this one. Sigh.

    Anyway, thanks again. I'll keep trying to find a fix as time allows.

    m.

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    Matthew Williams commented  · 

    Still nothing more than a month later. Not even an acknowledgment. What a shame. The only solution I have available right now is to convert the Hebrew and Arabic to outlines, turn off World-Ready Paragraph Composer, and hope no one has any edits to the Hebrew or Arabic or to the English text that might cause the Hebrew or Arabic to line break. This is not a nuisance or a "wouldn't it be nice if" report. This is a major behavior problem when setting mixed-direction text, but apparently, Adobe can't be bothered. It's like I'm reliving my Quark days. Sigh.

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    Just checking in to see what response my question has had. :-(

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    I've been having this same problem. Sometimes, I get rules above the footnote block even when it's not split. To fix it, I have to open the Footnote Options dialog box and change the setting for footnote rules and then immediately change it back. It's like the program forgets to re-examine the page and run some of it's routines.

    A similar issues (and I only mention it because they seem to be related) is that I will sometimes have words hyphenate across pages (when a footnote falls at the end of the page) even when the setting to allow that is turned off. If I put a hard return in the paragraph and then take it back out, InDesign correctly relows the paragraph to eliminate the hyphenation. These "redraw" problems are a maddening waste of time.

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    Never mind. Corrupt text box. Wierd, though, that it only affect one pages of the dozen or so that use that master.

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    Hello All,

    The fix for this issue is now available in InDesign’s latest version, id 14.0.3.
    Please update your InDesign to try out the fix.

    Note:
    If you open a file which already has this issue, in the new version, you may continue to see the issue.
    To resolve such cases, you may SAVE AS the file or do a force text re-composition as the workaround

    However, all the new files created in the new version will not have this issue anymore.

    You may also follow the below given link for the list of all fixed issues in Id 14.0.3
    https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/fixed-issues.html

    -InDesign Team

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    Matthew Williams commented  · 

    Text elements with left indents don't always retain the left indent after an InDesign-inserted page break (that is, a break that is managed by InDesign's internal functions, not breaks that have been inserted manually by the user.

    1. Adobe InDesign 12.1.0.56
    2. Create a paragraph style that has a left indent and set text in that paragraph style. Set enough text to flow onto a second page.
    3. The text should retain the left indent after the page break.
    4. Sometimes, the first line of text after the page break does not retain the indent.

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