Crops Marks should automatically offset the same distance as the bleed
I does not make any sense that the default offset for crop marks is less than .125" There isn't a finishing trim method that can use crop marks closer than that. The default 0.0833 in setting is useless for production. It only causes problems and renders the bleed virtually useless.
I work in grand format print and the problem is far worse. We require .5" or 2" bleed consistently for gallery wraps, museum exhibits etc. We constantly get pdfs from clients where the bleed is 2" but the crop marks are only 0.0833" away from the page size. This renders all the bleed useless. Bleed is only useful up to the crop mark.
And yes, there is a printer mark Fixup in Acrobat. But after the latest indesign update, that Fixup no longer functions the way it used to. Previously any crop marks outside the page size would be removed. Now, if the crop mark is outside the page but in the bleed it is not removed. Even if it is touching the bleed it is not removed.
Most designers just use the default settings because they know little about production. If the crop marks automatically offset the same distance as the bleed setting, it would be a tremendous help to print producers.
Paul Hibbert commented
I completely agree. This really gets to me. I understand that some people don’t understand bleed and are happy to leave the settings on default and let someone else sort it out.
What I DON’T understand is why Adobe doesn’t set the defaults to stop this happening. There are no circumstances whatsoever in which it is a good idea to have the crop marks inside the bleed. Not one. Not EVER.
It’s there when you print anything or export a PDF from InDesign, Illustrator, PhotoShop … and it should be an easy fix.