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    Allan Shearer commented  · 

    Hi Ravi

    I just tested this again and now I'm able to get ID 2020 to crash. I can supply more details if you like, but I happen to have sent a Crash Report, so, you'll likely be able to find it all in that report.

    Cheers

    Allan

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    Using InDesign CC 2018 (but this has existed in previous versions, at least back to 2015).

    If you have a Hyperlink set to another INDD file and you do NOT have that other file open ... then, if you Cut or Copy and Paste that hyperlink, it will break.

    1. Open the attached Chapter 1.indd and Chapter 2.indd files. Notice in each file there is a single hyperlink to the other file.

    2. Close ONE of the files and keep the other open.

    3. Open the Hyperlinks panel to observe the state of the hyperlinks - they should be 'ok' (if not, make sure you adjust the hyperlinks so that they are working properly, per the location where you have saved these demo files).

    4. Copy or Cut the frame containing the hyperlink (e.g., the text frame with the words "Chapter 1, Link to Chapter 2")

    5. Now look at the Hyperlinks panel ... notice that the hyperlink is now broken.

    Additional info (you need not do this... but, this happens to be how I check for broken hyperlinks, namely looking for the "ClipboardScrap1" Destination string and the DestinaionUniqueKey="0" or "") If you export the file to IDML (or IDMS) you'll be able to see in an XML editor that the DestinationUniqueKey="0" (broken), and the Destination ListItem path now looks similar to this:

    <ListItem type="string">C:\Users\allanshearer\AppData\Local\Adobe\InDesign\Version 13.0\en_GB\Caches\InDesign ClipboardScrap1</ListItem>

    Notice the ClipboardScrap1 text string ... this, of course, ought to be pointing to a valid file/folder location where either Chapter 1.INDD or Chapter 2.INDD reside.

    This wouldn't be so bad if you only had a handful of hyperlinks ... but, we have a project where we have 30-40* INDD files hyperlinking amongst themselves, with 10,000+ hyperlinks. Actually ... InDesign works GREAT for this project ... SO LONG AS we avoid EVER EVER EVER cutting/pasting a hyperlink.

    * Actually ... we have 30-40 INDD files, but we also have 2000+ additional INDD files which are used in Hyperlinking. Thus the potential for much tears is huge. Suffice to say, the problem isn't how many files we have ... since the problem exists with just this demo of 2 files and 2 hyperlinks.

    The problem is ... much of our content is temporarily Anchored (coming-in as IDMS files) ... and the 'normal' method for Un-anchoring these objects (snippets) is to, yes you guessed: Cut/Paste the frame. Alas ... we cannot use this method, since it destroys our hyperlinks (causing a HUGE amount of work to fix them all).

    So, we tip-toe around this problem ... for a couple of years now ... but boy-o-boy would it be NICE to see this fixed. (please!)

    Thanks

    Yours,

    Allan Shearer
    Donegal, Ireland

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    Allan Shearer commented  · 

    Hi Ravi

    Confirmed!! :) Works perfectly.

    Thanks so much. :)

    BTW ... I also checked out the other Column Rule bug I reported, namely: Column Rule colour is inconsistent vs. Fill and Stroke ... and it seems to be fixed as well (on MacOS, at least ... haven't checked Windows 10 yet). Cool! :)

    Allan

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    Allan Shearer commented  · 

    Hi Ravi

    I just tested this on the PreRelease build today ... and it seems fixed. Pretty sure! Can you verify that this got fixed already? Seems ok to me.

    Cheers

    Allan

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    Allan Shearer commented  · 

    Thanks for the quick reply, Ravi. :)

    I admit, I had not considered that the reason might be International English vs. U.S. English. I *should* have thought of that... as I'm Canadian and am used to dealing with differences in spelling.

    Myself (and honestly, I just thought this was universal), I've always spelled 'centre' and 'center' two different ways, depending on whether I was referring to a building or town centre, etc. vs. the middle of a circle.

    I am VERY impressed to see Colour spelled with a U in my InDesign... :) I hadn't expected that! :)

    However, I'm still on the fence about 'centre'. Illustrator and Acrobat use 'center'. It's only InDesign that I have seen to use the 're' spelling.

    Interestingly ... my MacOS is set to British English, as is my Windows 10: but InDesign on MacOS is showing U.S. spellings of 'center' and 'color'.

    All very confusing. But I might add: all very IMPRESSIVE that Adobe would even consider offering different spellings based on the region. I'm just not clear on 'how' to set or choose whether it's going to display in U.S. or U.K. English (it doesn't seem to change when I change my Regional settings).

    Either way... interesting. :) Curious, though, why all other (all?) Adobe apps don't do this.

    Cheers! :)

    Allan

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