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Fix the tagging of grouped elements.
See https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/38971693-image-tags-all-grouped-in-their-own-article-at-theBevi Chagnon | ACP
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Fix for this issue is now available in the latest update of InDesign 2020 – that is, InDesign 15.0.1
In the Creative Cloud Desktop application, click on the Updates section on the left. You should be able to see the Update available for InDesign. Please update your InDesign application to this version to try out the fix.
Let us know in the comments section if you face any problem with the updation process.
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This was NOT corrected in 15.0.1
The tag structure is even worse than before.
At this time, InDesign creates a <Figure> tag with all of individual pieces of the group embedded into the <Figure>, even when text paragraphs are in the group.Insane chaos!
Roll back to 2019. Ver 2020 is a mess for accessible PDF.
To Adobe's engineers:
Grouped elements in InDesign can contain any combination of text frames, graphic frames, and drawn elements. You can't jam them all into a <Figure> tag because:
1. Text is not a figure.
2. Multiple elements must be retained in individual tagged elements.
3. Text inside a <Figure> is not fully accessible and not allowed per the PDF/UA-1 standard.There is no ONE solution as to how to tag grouped elements, so give the designer the option to control them.
1. All elements, regardless of what they are, are independently tagged and grouped in a <Sect> tag (NEVER an <Art>/Article tag). That means the <Sect> can have any combo the designer needs of:
- <Figures> with Alt-Text
- Artifacted <Figures>
- Text element tags, such as <Hx>, <P>, <L>, <Caption>, <Table> etc.2. All elements, regardless of what they are, are independently tagged and NOT grouped in a <Sect> tag.
3. All elements, usually drawn graphic objects like circles, lines, and squares, are tagged as one <Figure> tag and set to Artifact.
4. All elements, usually drawn graphic objects like circles, lines, and squares, are tagged as one <Figure> tag WITH 1 Alt-text. In this case, the designer has drawn a graphic made of up individual pieces and wants just 1 Alt-text on 1 <Figure> tag.
Summary: Allow designers to choose how the grouped elements must be tagged. There is no "one size fits all" solution that Adobe can predict.
Similar to Alt-Text, Expansion text is an attribute on a <Span> tag that indicates to screen readers how to voice the abbreviation/acronym.
Examples:
MoMA = "mo mah", the Museum of Modern Art in NYC
USDA = U S D A, the US Department of Agriculture, not "uzdah"
St. Louis = "saint louis", not "street Louis."
Louis St = Louis Street.
1600 PA Ave NW = "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest", not 1600 pah aave nwah