Text margins don't change when master pages are applied
Version: InDesign CC2019
Steps to reproduce: Apply a new Master page, with different margins, to a document page with text frame
Expected result: Text frame should resize to fit the new margins of the master page (as before with Layout Adjustment enabled)
Actual result: Page margins change but text frame stays the same. Useless! I have to manually adjust the text block to fit the new margins.
I work in book publishing. When laying out a book, it's often necessary to make changes to the margins of certain pages, either to accommodate the dropped opening of a chapter, or to set a spread a line long or short to avoid unsightly widows. I do this by applying a master page to adjust the margins accordingly. Up until now (assuming Layout Adjustment was enabled), the text frame margins would adjust to match the new master page margins. But in InDesign 2019, Enable Layout Adjustment is gone, and though the page margins change properly, the text frame doesn't change, and I have to manually drag it into shape. This is a big time-waste and a PITA. I've tried fiddling with all the new settings, and nothing restores the old behavior. Someone suggested that creating the document with "Primary Text Frame" enabled would make things work properly, but no luck.
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I also work in book publishing and this issue (or bug) is a problem for us, costing us a lot of time when working on a 400+ page document with several master pages with different size text boxes.
Any word on a fix?
This is very problematic for our book publishing program. We use multiple master pages and make adjustments to them on a regular basis, as part of our overall design process. Primary text frames are not the solution and is really a step back to the QXD days of old. We are a major publisher with hundreds of designers all over the globe, please fix this bug.
Adobe, do you have an update since Ravi Kiran's post from November?
Rick Bates commented
I just spent 45 minutes in a chat session where the Adobe support rep insisted that Indesign is not and has never worked that way. Frustrated I got off with him and found this post. After calling support this time, they also did not know about this feature. When I showed them this page and Ravi's post, all he could say is "oh, see the purple, (Under Review)? This will change to green when it is fixed. No help whatsoever, no workaround, no followup. 6 months and no resolution is not acceptable. We're looking into other solutions for our publishing work. Good luck to all who are similarly screwed.
This is the most maddening bug my colleagues and I have had to work around. As book designers (and we represent over 300 users), we rely on the the ability to make margin adjustments throughout the design process. This bug makes the CC 2019 version feel like an inferior product and a waste of money. Please fix it before moving onto a 2020 version.
Several months later this one still doesn't seem to be resolved. And it is a huge issue for those of us in the publishing industry working on documents with multiple chapters and master pages.
InDesign 2019 not having this ability is almost like taking a step backwards in terms of efficiency.
This is an urgent priority for those of us who work with long documents. Please get this resolved ASAP!
The simplest solution is just to please bring back the old Layout Adjustment. The new Adjust Layout has its place, perhaps, for massive reformatting of an entire document, but the old Layout Adjustment was more of precision tool, and it was not made redundant by the new one.
Please bring back the old Layout Adjustment feature! (Keep the new one if you like, but bring the old one back!)
James Livingood commented
Cyrus Wraith Walker commented
I spent three hours with Adobe on the phone over two days. The first tech denied that the feature of text frame readjusting automatically had ever been part of indesign. After finally getting supervisor on the phone that knew what he was talking about he directed me to: FILE>Adjust Layout>Auto-Adjust Margins to Page Size Changes. Which can also be found by going to FILE>Document Setup>Auto adjust. When this is to a current document with text, all of the text boxes disappear tiny little markers in the middle of the spread. I'm so SICK of Adobe messing with features that are needed and screwing them up. And if you tell they screwed up they will argue with you.
Jamie Kerry commented
I agree. Very frustrating change. No reason to mess with Enable Layout Adjustment. If it's not broken, don't fix it!
Cheryl K Zwart commented
You can actually get the text to refit to the new margins but not when you change the number of columns.
Greg Johnson commented
There seems to be no logical reason why the Enable Layout Adjustment feature was dropped from CC 2019. Adjust Layout is a nightmare when working on documents (books) with hundreds of pages. Adobe: Please make this change back to Enable Layout Adjustment!
Mary Austin Speaker commented
Just chiming in that this is a major problem for me. I just don't have time to do without that feature— had to save my project as an idml and go back to cc 2017 to finish the job. WHEN is Adobe going to fix this?
SO angry about this. I need 2018 and can't download it because I skipped from 2017.
I daily work in books and have to apply masters constantly to adjust margins!
Sohrab Habibion commented
As someone who designs a lot of books that require different master pages to be applied later in the process, this is a very debilitating bug. I do hope it gets resolved soon, as it's adding many additional and unnecessary hours to my workflow.
Tyler Derosier commented
I agree that this is a huge issue, especially for people who need to apply multiple types of master pages across long documents. It's very frustrating needing to setup and always use a primary text frame.
Bradley Devereaux commented
Hi - not sure if this is the same issue, but maybe I can bring some clarity. In 2018, I used to be able to set a text box to the size of the margins, and when i changed the margin size, the text box would shrink/grow to fit automatically.
Great feature, as I can place large word docs into indesign, then use master slides with varying margin settings to swap between the layout of text boxes. For example, I might have a master slide with margins of 6p0 on all sides, and another with 2 columns. When I swapped the master, the text boxes would switch to the margin layout - saving hours of time fiddling with layouts.
This no longer happens - bug? intentional?
Jürgen Althaus commented
the new behavior unfortunately has nothing to do with automatic layout adjustment anymore. So I had to install the previous ID version again to finish my project. In my eyes there is an urgent need for improvement.
Uwe Laubender commented
me too. It's either a bug or an unfinished feature.
The problem is not only with page margins. Also with number of columns and gap between columns.
An applied master in CC 2018.1 could also govern this. Not more with CC 2019 22.214.171.124.
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Raphaël Freeman commented
oh gosh, and I thought it was just me going mad.... Glad to know it’s a bug